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The California Shale Bubble Just Burst
Real Clear Energy ^ | May 21, 2014 | Nick Cunningham

Posted on 05/22/2014 5:46:52 AM PDT by thackney

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To: Fightin Whitey

Exactly. It doesn’t matter if they had reserves that were the equivalent of Saudi Arabia’s. As long as the Dems are in charge, they aren’t going to get one drop.


21 posted on 05/22/2014 6:26:02 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: thackney
it takes 127,000 gallons of water to frack a well

or about 5 swimming pools worth, which in Hollywood is equivalent to 3-4 wells per city block.

22 posted on 05/22/2014 6:27:10 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Sequoyah101

It just is having reality become clear instead of the unsupported wild estimate of 30 billion barrels for Devon. It is actually doing well, but it isn’t the magic oil spigot a few were hyping to promote their stock price.

http://www.oaoa.com/inthepipeline/article_d466e422-ca5e-11e3-9c89-001a4bcf6878.html


23 posted on 05/22/2014 6:27:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DainBramage

LOL you’re using pragmatic statistics.

That’s not admissable in the court of the MSM.


24 posted on 05/22/2014 6:29:47 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: thackney

If there was a Saudi sized oil field just 100 feet below ground in the middle of the desert east of San Bernadino they would ban its recovery for some stupid reason.

The California of today is the result of all those migrations to it for over a hundred years..................


25 posted on 05/22/2014 6:38:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: thackney

Is this report more influenced by science or politics? It seems rather convenient.


26 posted on 05/22/2014 6:41:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: DainBramage

...”it takes 127,000 gallons of water to frack a well...”

No. It takes between 3 and 11 million gallons of water to frack a well. In the Eagleford the average is 8 million gal and in the Marcellus it’s 3.5 million.

Then the blowback and produced water gives back 40-60% of that volume that requires treatment/recycling or disposal (by deep well injection).

Water in shale oil is a huge economy: about $37,888,000,000 to supply and treat/dispose in 2014, and growing about 6% annually. More than 80% of the cost is for hauling and disposal.

I can’t see California handling all the tanker traffic and media hype.

And I bet there’s more oil in California that we can imagine.


27 posted on 05/22/2014 6:48:21 AM PDT by Amadeo
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To: thackney

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The article is so full of crap I don’t know where to start.

So I won’t.


28 posted on 05/22/2014 6:50:41 AM PDT by wita
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To: dangerdoc

This revised reserves report is more based upon science than the original over-estimated report.


29 posted on 05/22/2014 6:50:54 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Interesting article. There is no denying that fracking is good for local economies. It may already be having a large beneficial impact on the national economy. Despite the claims of environmental alarmists, I’m not aware of any significant adverse environmental impact from fracking.

That said, they do have water issues in California. According to the article, it takes as much water to frack a well as to meet the needs of a family of four. Is that a lot? How much oil and gas would they get from that well?

Last I heard, desalinization plants take a lot of energy which could be supplied by nuclear energy. Of course, nuclear energy is anathema to many so-called environmentalists. Are CA’s water problems partially self-inflicted? Maybe they have been ignoring a valid solution for years.


30 posted on 05/22/2014 6:54:09 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: thackney

This revised report,no doubt,came after a big donation to Rat Party Headquarters by Earth First.


31 posted on 05/22/2014 7:00:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: ChessExpert

Last I heard, desalinization plants take a lot of energy which could be supplied by nuclear energy.

The US Navy probably has an economical solution to that problem. Unfortunately they aren’t using power that is considered politically correct.


32 posted on 05/22/2014 7:01:07 AM PDT by wita
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To: thackney

Good to know. It’s hard to tell what is real and what is being spun for political purposes.


33 posted on 05/22/2014 7:01:18 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: ChessExpert
That said, they do have water issues in California.

True...but is *clean* water required or can they use sewer runoff,etc? Or,for that matter,can they use sea water?

34 posted on 05/22/2014 7:02:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Water must be clean. Any biologicals introduced would plug up the holes and reduce the oil from moving into the well bore.


35 posted on 05/22/2014 7:05:34 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The estimate is expected to be made public in June? What’s this article then, chopped liver?


36 posted on 05/22/2014 7:06:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

I believe they mean the detailed report for the basis of the estimate.


37 posted on 05/22/2014 7:09:48 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney; neverdem; narses; Nachum; SunkenCiv

Hmmmmn.

I am very, very suspicious of the timing of this: There is a MASSIVE anti-anergy, pro-CAGW propaganda move going on now as the recent NASA-GISS, Western Antarctica Ice Sheet “collapse”, movie releases, and “we’re all gonna die” climate catastrophes show.

My opinion? The CA oil fields are pretty much exactly where they were in April with just as much oil and shale rock in them as they were in April, but “somebody” between this energy agency press release and the next energy agency press release is going to make POLITICAL MOVE to either restrain fracking or buy oil rights or change fracking rules to make money later.

For example, just by changing rules now for a few oil areas will make AL of the present money invested there useless, right? So the “oil money” is lost (which makes greens and Washington and Sacramento and Ls Angeles and San Francisco very, very happy!) but leaves the oil in place for investors to buy up cheaply from the starving and government-controlled drought-killed farmers in central CA as well!

So, who benefits? ANYBODY who is well-connected with the democrats in charge, and who can work and think long-term. (Insert name of Chinese and Muslim and democrat donor here)


38 posted on 05/22/2014 7:11:32 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

My opinion?

The industry people (not the stock promotion people) have been talking for a couple years how lasting production from wells in this play are not happening. Hydraulic Fracturing wasn’t yielding expected results. Acidizing and other methods have been pushed to extreme levels trying to create lasting production.

This area of rock is a twisted mess with many, many fractures that allowed oil to escape this deep layer and was the source rock for much of the Kern/Bakersfield previous production.


39 posted on 05/22/2014 7:15:31 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

It sounds like the amount of oil is the same but they are saying it is more difficult to get at than previously thought.


40 posted on 05/22/2014 7:25:20 AM PDT by toast
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