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Salinas police kill man they say lunged with shears (video)
Salina Californian ^ | May 20, 2014 | Allison Gatlin

Posted on 05/21/2014 9:21:43 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod

Salinas police fatally shot a man armed with gardening shears midday Tuesday outside a Sanborn Road bakery, Cmdr. Vince Maiorana said.

The officer-involved fatality is the second this month and the third for the year including the deaths of Osman Hernandez and Angel Ruiz, respectively. Last year, Salinas police killed one: Jose Ruiz, on Williams Road.

Officers responded about noon Tuesday to a home on the 700 block of Elkington Avenue when a woman reported a man had jumped her backyard fence and attempted to attack her dog with scissors, Maiorana said.

When officers encountered the man at the intersection of Sanborn and Del Monte Avenues, outside Delicia's Bakery, he made no attempt to hide the shears, Maiorana said.

Attempts at hailing the man in English and Spanish were unsuccessful, Maiorana said. Officers then unsuccessfully deployed a Taser as the man began waving the gardening shears in the air, he said

(Excerpt) Read more at thecalifornian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: crime; police; shooting
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1 posted on 05/21/2014 9:21:43 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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FYI graphic content and language in video


2 posted on 05/21/2014 9:22:59 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Suicide by cop or sheer stupidity.


3 posted on 05/21/2014 9:23:06 AM PDT by soycd
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To: KneelBeforeZod

What is it with people? Did you see the woman with a baby in her arms running TOWARD the confrontation!?

What the heck is wrong with these people!?


4 posted on 05/21/2014 9:33:00 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

The subject was in retreat when shot, the officers were too quick to open fire on him. They should have let this “play” out more.


5 posted on 05/21/2014 9:37:23 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: Freeport

I was about to post the same thing. Look at the people across the street and the people in their vehicles watching. Does no one know about over shot, through shots, ricochets? Fools.


6 posted on 05/21/2014 9:37:25 AM PDT by rey
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To: KneelBeforeZod

At the point where the police shot the man to death he was not an immediate threat to them. They murdered the man because he had the temerity to refuse to do what they told him to do.

The lesson from this event and from the Bundy ranch event is that if you’re going to refuse to do what the police want you to do then you’d best be well-armed and prepared to shoot.

Because it seems that law enforcement in this country consistently backs down whenever they have to face equal or superior force.


7 posted on 05/21/2014 9:38:34 AM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; ...
Stupid woman who runs towards a potentially violent scene with her baby in her arms calls the cops frigging idiots?

Not enough in the video for me to call it one way or another, but the dead guy had plenty of opportunity to comply.

I think I heard a Tazer pop early on, to no effect.

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8 posted on 05/21/2014 9:42:37 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Never bring gardening shears to a gun fight.


9 posted on 05/21/2014 9:43:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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It is hard to tell if the guy was “spun” by the shot a la hollywood or he had turned around. Camera moves right at the crucial moment


10 posted on 05/21/2014 9:46:39 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: TMSuchman

Remember when we’d reflexively give the benefit of the doubt to the police?

Were we naive? Or has something horrible happened in the USA?


11 posted on 05/21/2014 9:53:01 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I thought The Bill Of Rights mattered before 2009 as well.)
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To: TMSuchman

Your right they should have let him continue to go down the street and run into some innocent bystander that he could of attack.


12 posted on 05/21/2014 9:53:21 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: KneelBeforeZod

He clearly had turned around and moved toward the cop, whether he had sheers in his hand or what not who knows, but its clear that before shot he did turn around and move toward the cop...


13 posted on 05/21/2014 9:55:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: rey; Freeport

for all intents and purposes, Salinas may as well be El Salvador...


14 posted on 05/21/2014 9:55:55 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: riverrunner

No, they should have more assistance come help, then use the pepper spray on him [this is the reason they carry the stuff right] then gang tackled him, in a swarm fashion. Look how fast backup arrived after the officer fires their sidearms.


15 posted on 05/21/2014 9:58:05 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: null and void

This “judge, jury, and executioner” police behavior has to stop.

Executing people without benefit of due process because they
“didn’t comply” is just plain wrong.


16 posted on 05/21/2014 9:59:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Perp would not stop, was carrying weapon and could have grabbed some stupid female like the one who chased the scene. Shoot the thing with either a taser of a well placed volley of 9mm. He WAS a danger to the neighborhood and the police trying to subdue him.


17 posted on 05/21/2014 10:09:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: soycd

I think you’re on to something with the sheer stupidity angle.....


18 posted on 05/21/2014 10:10:55 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: HamiltonJay

It looked to me like the cop was going to try and surprise him and take away the sheers but the guy turned around too quick and then the sheers were right in the cops face. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s what it looked like.


19 posted on 05/21/2014 10:12:26 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: TMSuchman

Well put.


20 posted on 05/21/2014 10:15:06 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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