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Not Winning the Senate Stings Republicans Most of All
The Wire ^ | November 7, 2012 | Dashiell Bennett

Posted on 05/21/2014 8:29:24 AM PDT by centurion316

Among the themes of second-guessing and deep regret that are emerging of rubble of last night's election is the thought that the Senate could be under the control of Republicans right now if weren't for their habit of running supremely unlikable candidates. It was bad enough that Mitt Romney was soundly defeated for the White House, but what hurts even more right now is that Republicans, who at one point had hoped for a sweep of both houses of Congress, actually lost ground in the upper chamber. Depending on your definition of a poachable, that makes as many seven races over the last two election cycles that could have been theirs for the taking.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; senate; teaparty
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To: centurion316

Rather pull the band aid off slowly, huh?


61 posted on 05/21/2014 12:05:54 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: centurion316
I’m not prepared to cede the Federal Government to the Democrats.

Easier to vote for their enablers, eh?

62 posted on 05/21/2014 12:09:11 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: TBP
Then why did they throw away Kentucky?

Well it does border Indiana....


63 posted on 05/21/2014 12:09:54 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: RIghtwardHo
No legislation is passing anyway so who holds the Senate in 2014 is not nearly as big a deal.

He has a pen and a phone, he doesn't need legislation.

We are about to witness powers, not unlike the monarch we came here to avoid, being layed on us.

64 posted on 05/21/2014 12:36:20 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Nifster
I think Mark Levin suggested a possible solution for the No Spin McConnell problem

The same solution I proposed for Boehner, Cantor and Ryan a few months back, the seats in the House are not nearly as important as one seat in the Senate.

65 posted on 05/21/2014 12:38:01 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: citizen
Well, that will certainly do a lot of good --- for the Dimocrats!

Mitt Romney for President! Woo! Woo!

66 posted on 05/21/2014 12:40:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: drjimmy
I don't hear "establishment" Republicans say they are going to stay home or vote for the Democrat when a conservative wins a Republican primary.

Then you don't get out enough. Tokyo Rove, did all he could to help Dingy Harry by attacking his opponent, and that is not the only one, he might have even practiced a little Witch Craft.

67 posted on 05/21/2014 12:43:02 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: centurion316
Voting for a Democrat is something that I cannot do and will never do.

You have voted for plenty of them, they just don't tell you they are democrats.

68 posted on 05/21/2014 12:49:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: ansel12
They will actually come out against the GOP nominee when they want to.

Remember when Ollie North ran for Senate? They even dragged Nancy Reagan out to cripple him.

69 posted on 05/21/2014 12:53:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: centurion316
Republicans failed to take back the Senate in 2012 because they didn't nationalize the race for the Senate.

They were winning the Senate prior to the convention. After the convention, McConnell went AWOL and Romney never extended coattails to campaign on a national message of sending a team to Congress to work with him as President.

Each state, each candidate, was left the themselves to win their seats.

Republicans went from being ahead in 7 races before the convention to losing 2 seats after the convention.

It was not because of flawed candidates. It was because of a failure by the party to create a national message that everyone ran on.

-PJ

70 posted on 05/21/2014 12:59:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: itsahoot

I was trying to remember North, I remembered the situation, but couldn’t remember the people involved.

North would have been a great asset in the Senate.

There are other examples of it also.


71 posted on 05/21/2014 12:59:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Republicans failed to take back the Senate in 2012 because they didn't nationalize the race for the Senate.

I disagree. Their candidates stunk the place up. Case in point, Todd Akin. No hypothetical nationalized race would have changed that outcome.

72 posted on 05/21/2014 1:44:38 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Agree with your post.

One other point...there really only about 10 or so competitive Senate races each 2 yr cycle...it really allows the MSM to focus/concentrate resources on shredding Republicans.

Much different than House elections where the MSM would have to attack maybe a hundred candidates every time.


73 posted on 05/21/2014 1:49:46 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: centurion316
Todd Akin successfully ran 5 races for the House. If he "stunk up the place," he would have done so a lot sooner than when he ran for the Senate.

The truth is that he was abandoned by the GOP after his gaffe, and if he had been supported by them before the gaffe, the gaffe might not have even happened.

I tracked the 2012 campaing very closely for FR, posting weekly poll predictions and probability charts. Republicans were riding high before the convention, but completely dropped the ball after the convention. That didn't happen because the candidates suddenly "stunk," it happened because the leadership is unqualified to lead.

-PJ

74 posted on 05/21/2014 2:12:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: itsahoot
You have voted for plenty of them, they just don't tell you they are democrats.

Ouch. The burn is strong in this one.

75 posted on 05/21/2014 2:24:03 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Todd Akin successfully ran 5 races for the House

He was batting against minor league pitching. He couldn't handle the heat and breaking balls when he got to the bigs.

76 posted on 05/21/2014 2:40:48 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
Todd Akin doesn't explain why the Senate went from +5 to -2 between September to November.

Tommy Thompson?

Scott Brown?

Connie Mack?

Linda McMahon?

Pete Hoekstra?

Linda Lingle?

Denny Rehberg?

George Allen?

All stinkers?

Here is my last 2012 election report before the election.

-PJ

77 posted on 05/21/2014 3:46:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I don’t think that you understood what I was trying to say. The range that I quoted was the projection for 2016. You named the culprits for previous debacles. One that count, you are correct. Muldoons, Morons, Moe, Curly, Larry.


78 posted on 05/21/2014 6:12:57 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
Maybe you didn't understand my post. This thread is about Republican remorse over not winning the Senate in 2012.

I said that the leadership has nobody to blame but themselves, not stinky candidates.

If we don't change the leadership, then there is no reason to expect 2014 to be any different than 2012.

Now maybe, just maybe, 2014 will be another wave year that sweeps in Republicans despite themselves, but then I won't expect them to perform any better in the majority than they do in the minority.

You'd still think that Nancy Pelosi is running the House, and we'll think that Harry Reid is still running the Senate.

-PJ

79 posted on 05/21/2014 7:27:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cuban leaf

Wouldn’t it be smarter, cuban leaf, to leave the Senate race blank in the general election: have that contest have a noticeable low turnout?


80 posted on 05/21/2014 8:39:16 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It's inevitable: status quo Kentuckians are incapable of saying "No" to McC!)
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