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Another one bites the dust.

Courts have ruled that laws banning same-sex marriage in Arkansas, Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, Virginia, Texas, Michigan and just yesterday, Oregon are unconstitutional.

1 posted on 05/20/2014 12:30:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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So, like - why are we bothering to have elections?

We could just let our 2-3,000 Black-Robed Masters tell us how it's going to be.

Oh, wait - that's how it is, already...

2 posted on 05/20/2014 12:33:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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Ugh. That makes me ill......


3 posted on 05/20/2014 12:36:47 PM PDT by sneakers
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Funny these “Federal” judges haven’t ruled Obamacare UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

F U B O!


6 posted on 05/20/2014 12:42:15 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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The parasitic financial elite establishment has owned our Judiciary for a long time.

Too bad for us, the Rockys want perversion. So they’re forcing it on all Americans, as well as the rest of the world.

Until these financial elite parasites face prosecution and just punishment for their treason, the governments that are playing host to them will be used against righteousness and promote evil.


7 posted on 05/20/2014 12:42:50 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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John Edward Jones III (born June 13, 1955) is an American lawyer and jurist from the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. A Republican, Jones was appointed by President George W. Bush as federal judge on the United States District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania in February 2002 and was unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate on July 30, 2002. He is best known for his presiding role in the landmark Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District case, in which the teaching of intelligent design in public school science classes was ruled to be unconstitutional.

another moderate/lib judge appointed by our side.

8 posted on 05/20/2014 12:43:55 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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Just what is the constitutional provision that forbids such purported discrimination? Just curious.


9 posted on 05/20/2014 12:45:15 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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Oh, I see. Now we have rule by judges and not the people? These judges are out of bounds and need to be tarred and feathered and kicked out on their asses.


11 posted on 05/20/2014 12:47:42 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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Another Bush appointee. Its starting to be a really close race between him and Obama as to who’s helped liberalism more.


12 posted on 05/20/2014 12:49:18 PM PDT by jarwulf
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We really need the states to say NO! Stand up to FedZilla.

The people in the states will support it. C’mon states - do it!


13 posted on 05/20/2014 12:49:31 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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The creep who did this has history.

John E. Jones III.

15 posted on 05/20/2014 1:01:42 PM PDT by Regulator
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It's funny that the essence of the Windsor ruling is now being completely ignored for a political agenda - the right for states to define marriage.
18 posted on 05/20/2014 1:06:28 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Time to revoke his ruling and BAN U.S. District Judge John E. Jones .... PERMANENTLY !


22 posted on 05/20/2014 1:18:49 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Just because a “ban” is unconstitutional, it does not make gay “marriage” legal, right?

Judges were given no such power in the constitution, so this ruling is also unconstitutional.


23 posted on 05/20/2014 1:27:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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I know. We have indeed lost this one. It’s only a matter of time before SCOTUS expands it nationwide. They are first letting the District and Cir courts pick it off one at a time.


24 posted on 05/20/2014 1:28:33 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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It is the states that have sovereignty over the issue of marriage. This judge has breached the Constitution and is a traitor to the constitution and should be treated as such.


25 posted on 05/20/2014 1:29:22 PM PDT by rcofdayton (.)
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"So, if heterosexuals can marry, denying homosexuals the right to marry violates Equal Protection."

As mentioned in related threads concerning constitutionally unprotected gay marriage and the Equal Protections Clause, please consider the following.

Politically correct, pro-gay interpretations of the 14th Amendment's Equal Protections Clause by activist judges aside, the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights. So regardless that activist judges are saying that anti-gay marriage state laws are unconstitutonal, the states are free to make laws which discriminate against gay marriage as long as such laws don't also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights imo.

A key Supreme Court case which clearly indicates that the states are free to discriminate on the basis of sex regardless of the Equal Protections Clause is Minor v. Happersett. In that case Virginia Minor used the Equal Protections Clause to argue that her citizenship gave her the right to vote regardless that she was a woman.

However, the Court did not buy her argument but clarified that the 14th Amendment did not add new rights to the Constitution, that it only strengthened existing protections.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

And since the states hadn't amended the Constitution to expressly protect woman sufferage before the 14th Amendment was ratifed, women still didn't have the right to vote after 14A was ratified regardless of the Equal Protections Clause.

Note that the states subsequently ratified the 19th Amendment which effectively gave women the right to vote.

But it remains that the states have never amended the Constituiton to expressly protect gay agenda issues, including gay marriage.

What patriots need to do stop activist judges in their tracks with respect to legislating from the bench is the following. Patriots need to work with state and federal lawmakers to make punitive laws which require judges to promptly, clearly and publicly specify any constitutional clauses to substantiate their decisions. And if the Constitution is silent about a particular issue, then judges need to clarify that it is a 10th Amendment-protected issue. And if the states don't like what the Constitution says then they can always exercise their unique, constitutional Article V option to amend it.

Patriots also need to start making sure that their children are being taught the federal government's constitutionally limited powers, including the difference between legislative and judicial powers.

26 posted on 05/20/2014 1:33:28 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Given the SCOTUS ruling, I doubt any Federal judge is going to rule in favor of laws banning same-sex marriage.

To win this fight, we either need a Federal amendment. Or a change in SCOTUS or both.


30 posted on 05/20/2014 1:46:39 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Looks like this judge appointed by G. W. Bush and with his most famous ruling an anti-free speech one in my mind (The Dover Case) riddled with bitterness and hostility towards the religious people on a local school board, ruled true to form.


31 posted on 05/20/2014 1:53:50 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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"Courts have ruled that laws banning same-sex marriage in Arkansas, Idaho, Utah, Oklahoma, Virginia, Texas, Michigan and just yesterday, Oregon are unconstitutional."

Please note that the listed handful of states is a far cry from the Constitution's Article V 3/4 supermajority of states required to amend the Constitution to constitutionally protect so-called gay rights."

38 posted on 05/20/2014 2:07:08 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Where in the Constitution is the guarantee of a marriage between two homosexuals? I’ve read the Constitution in and out and have not found it. I’m being facitious, obviously. Everybody has a right to marriage in the traditional sense, a sense that everyone understands, a man and a woman for the purpose of raising a family. Nowhere does the Constitution guarantee the right to perverse sexual encounters. These judges are as perverse as the clowns who files suit!


44 posted on 05/20/2014 3:07:19 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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