(Franklin) Graham: ‘True Followers of Jesus...Cannot Endorse Same-Sex Marriage'

CNS News ^ | May 16, 2014 | Michael W. Chapman

[RoosterRedux]

The Holy Spirit is not argumentative...but you are? What gives?

[xzins]

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

[Heart-Rest]

Amen to what Rev. Franklin Graham is saying here!   (Thanks for posting this.)

One of my prayers right now is that Graham and his words on this important matter will prove inspirational and eye-opening to the current Archbishop of New York City, Cardinal Dolan, so Dolan can carefully and prayerfully rethink his own foolish use of words and phrases (in regard to practicing homosexual football players) such as Dolan's shameful "Bravo!", and "Good for him!", when Sam came out of his perverted closet, and bragged about his sinful and aberrant lifestyle.

Franklin Graham displays tremendous courage with this much needed message of truth he is openly proclaiming here with clarity and love, and I believe all Christians must boldly stand together and speak with a much louder and more unified voice on this "homo-marriage" issue, as well as on the "pro-life issues".

To Rev. Franklin Graham:    May the Lord bless you real good.

[Mr Rogers]

“We do not follow Him...we become One with Him.”

No, we follow Him. If you are His sheep, you will know His voice and follow:

“He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out of the fold, and when he has driven all his own flock outside, he goes in front of them himself, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. They will never follow a stranger—indeed, they will run away from him, for they do not recognise strange voices.”

“Moreover we know that to those who love God, who are called according to his plan, everything that happens fits into a pattern for good. God, in his foreknowledge, chose them to bear the family likeness of his Son, that he might be the eldest of a family of many brothers. He chose them long ago; when the time came he called them, he made them righteous in his sight, and then lifted them to the splendour of life as his own sons.”

We do not become Jesus Stew. He calls, and we are to follow. And God will change us, but he does not make us “One with Him”. We are placed IN HIM:

“and has lifted us right out of the old life to take our place with him in Christ in the Heavens.”

“No, there is no us left to follow Him. We die and are transformed into His likeness. / That leaves nothing of us left to follow Him.”

Not in Christianity. To be filled with the Holy Spirit doesn’t mean we are filled like water filling a cup. Instead, it means we give control to him - the analogy is:

“do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit” - ie, be as controlled by the Holy Spirit as a drunk is controlled by the booze.

[RoosterRedux]

Don't ramble in Scripture when a simple yes or no will suffice.

As I have said, if you are not filled with the Holy Spirit, He awaits you.

I have nothing to do with this equation...it's just you and Him.

[xzins]

1 Co 2:10these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.c 14The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord

so as to instruct him?”d

But we have the mind of Christ.

[RoosterRedux]

What is more important to you? To win an argument with a fellow Christian...or to bring the souls of those who might lurk on and listen to FR to Christ?

What is your job? Do you live in Christ...or?

[xzins]

You have been answered multiple times. You won’t hear it.

Now you answer my question: Do you agree with Jesus’ words, or do you agree with yourself on “follow” and “homosexual marriage”?

[xzins]

Very few other websites even ALLOW you to post articles for discussion.

This is one of the ONLY that would permit you to post such an article as this for discussion.

I sincerely believe that Free Republic is worthy of our support. A dollar, a five, a ten, a hundred, a thousand....whatever....It ENCOURAGES Christian participation.

Donate here: https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate

[Elsie]

DUH!

[Elsie]

The Health Risks of gay sex.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html

 

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Health Risks of gay sex.

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[Elsie]

I totally agree with what the BOOK says!

[Elsie]

It’s another truth that we hold to be self obvious.

Some bozo's in high office somewhere thought Christians would vote for a deceived MORMON; too...

[RoosterRedux]

BTW, not once have you spoken to me of being "born again" of the Holy Spirit.

Again I ask, is your Christianity a kind of mechanical, legalistic ritual...or is it alive by being infused by the Holy Spirit.

If you are a legalist...I again invite you to call Christ into your heart and soul and body.

This will change everything.

I am not perfect. Actually, I am a complete jackass...an idiot. But I am His idiot.

He who lives in me is overwhelming...and He forgives me of my idiocy.

He asks you to invite Him in.

The Christ...He is calling you out.

[Elsie]

I have been trying to think of ways to tell my children (early 20s) that gay marriage is wrong without sounding so out dated as they perceive me to be on this issue.

Show them the BOOK!

Do YOU believe it?

[xzins]

My intent on this thread in this discussion was to prevent Franklin Graham’s words from being diluted by sophistry. Since he spoke the mind of God on this subject, then that aligns me with supporting God’s own words on the subject of homosexual marriage. And since the Holy Spirit reminds us of Jesus’ words, then that aligns me with the Holy Spirit.

I don’t worry much about lurkers. They are smart. They can read through an entire thread and see how a conversation has developed.

[RoosterRedux]

Simple question, Dude. Are you filled with the Holy Spirit or aren't you?

Yep or Nope?

[xzins]

I am glad that you are a jackass. Now, it would be nice if you were a jackass who depended on the Word of God.

[RoosterRedux]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

But are you filled with the Holy Spirit? How hard is that?

[Elsie]

1 Peter 4:12-19

12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.