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Maybe, Just Maybe . . . Obamacare is Unconstitutional (Maybe?)
Townhall.com ^ | May 18, 2014 | Joanne Moudy

Posted on 05/18/2014 11:13:38 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Taxman

I think I’ve stated before in so many words....when the chief law enforcement agency ignores the law,then there is no law.


41 posted on 05/18/2014 3:33:19 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: oldtech

There is NO “Maybe” about it, he IS unconstitutional and needs to be impeached ASAP. Stop kicking the can down the road and get on with it.


42 posted on 05/18/2014 3:59:06 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: WhiskeyX

I’m interested.

How would that work in today’s environment?


43 posted on 05/18/2014 4:39:14 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: A Navy Vet

Ophonybama and his administration has Cloward-Plivened us!

He has so overwhelmed the “system” that the Congress cannot get on top of any one of the Ophonybama’s flagrant law breaking actions or constitutional violations before yet another scandal is brought to light.

This is, of course, by design! I’d wager that if we were able to get our hands on them, the recordings of the inner circle goings on would lay out the administration’s step-by-step plan to totally overwhelm the system.

Furthermore, they plan to keep it overwhelmed until Ophonybama is finished with us, and the USA is reduced to a second rate power.

We might be able to stop him, but it will take a lot of courageous people calling him out!


44 posted on 05/18/2014 4:47:51 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Signalman

Maybe Roberts will be willing to take one for the Gipper?

And rule for We the People, the US Constitution and against Ophonybama?

Just to see what will happen?

We could pray for something like that to happen!


45 posted on 05/18/2014 4:49:34 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: oldtech

Most troubling, isn’t it?

Not to mention that virtually every executive branch department in the federal government is arming itself to the teeth!

What is up with that?


46 posted on 05/18/2014 4:52:50 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: DaveA37

Boehner and the Republican leadership have no balls, Dave! No balls!


47 posted on 05/18/2014 4:53:50 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Taxman

Parliamentary law is much abused in today’s political environment. The Establishment Republicans abuse parliamentary law at the precinct, county, state, and national level conventions just as the Democrats do even more so at their conventons. These entrenched and challenger political parties get away with such abuses because the grassroots voters are too few and ill prepared to challenge and defeat such abuses. The American educational system has done too good of a job of keeping young and old citizens ignorant about their individual and group powers to wield parliamentary law.

The solution is for enough people to get determined enough to educate themselves and each other about their powers under parliamentary law and organize to meet on a frequent basis around a very few and fundamental constitutional issues which the vast majority can reach consensus upon. They have to keep the group’s political palnks in their political platform few enough to maintain a strong group consensus, and agree to disagree on all other political issues which can break up the group.

Having organized around the key and perpetual constitutional issues, the group/s can exercise their rights at the local government meetings and begin to put their own members into the local political offices and challenge the top down candidates appointed by the major parties’ state committees. At that point things get real interesting as the establkishment elites of the major parties discover they are losing control of their voting precincts, local conventions, and local governments.

As your group secures control of the political meetings and enough government offices, it then becomes possible to introduce and sometimes pass legislation returning certain fundamental rights to the control of local governments now controlled by the representatives of your own local political organizations. The right to form grand juries who may then indict government officials for corruption and unconstitutional acts is one of the foremost rights to regain. Making U.S. Senators accountable to the State governments and the citizens is another key objective. Holding the judicial branch accountable for unconstitutional acts with impeachments is another avenue of reform. But securing control of local government and respect for parliamentary law is mandatory in order to pursue the larger issues.


48 posted on 05/18/2014 8:27:48 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Cheerio

Evil will leak through the most tightly crafted laws every time!


49 posted on 05/18/2014 8:51:08 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: WhiskeyX

I agree that your solution is the ideal long run solution.

What do we do in the meantime?

And how do you think we should go about keeping a lid on those who disrespect our laws and our constitution will be?


50 posted on 05/18/2014 9:27:59 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Taxman

“And how do you think we should go about keeping a lid on those who disrespect our laws and our constitution will be?”

So long as there is no legislative, executive, or judicial accountability, there can be no lid to keep on those who disrespect the law and the Constitution. At best there can only be resistance in the courts and elsewhere in society until and unless accountability to the Constitution and the laws is resumed. Such resistance is what we are seeing in the present court case/s.

One of the great problems is the Democrat-socialist-communist domination of the legal profession. Conservatives are being systematically excluded from the legal profession from the time they enter college to the time they seek clients. Time and time again elections are held in which there are no candidates from the Republican Party or other conservatives seeking election as a judge. Conservatives are effectively ceding control of the judiciary to the most radical and unconstitutional jurists imaginable. This circumstance must change if justice is ever to prevail.


51 posted on 05/18/2014 10:15:32 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Hugin

OK, thanks.


52 posted on 05/19/2014 5:51:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: WhiskeyX

Thank you for a well-reasoned and thought-out response.

It took the LIEberals the better part of one hundred fifty years to gain the kind of control they now have over our lives and fortunes.

Since all we conservatives have left is our sacred honor, we’d best hunker down for a long haul to return the USA to a Constitutional Republic.

If we can last long enough, it may well take us a hundred and fifty years to get there.


53 posted on 05/19/2014 1:03:48 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Kaslin

Most of America is in fact unconstitutional....


54 posted on 06/18/2014 12:52:25 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Gaffer
Like it or not, the bill number originated in the House. How they got there and by what outrageous machinations are immaterial. Our illustrious Supreme Court will rule it such.

I'd be surprised if the "conservative" judges ruled that way. What the Senate did, even if it adhered to the letter of the law, clearly violated the intent of the law. If the Senate can just gut a House bill in such a manner, then why would the Founders even have bothered with an Origination Clause?

55 posted on 06/18/2014 1:02:01 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao

Not enough conservative judges to matter


56 posted on 06/18/2014 1:14:24 PM PDT by Gaffer
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