[FreeAtlanta]

This is no longer science but simply propaganda.

That is very quotable. I enjoyed your comment. It is the same argument I have been using with a couple of friends over email. One issue with a lot of these man caused global warming/climate change "scientists" is that they have the premise, and are unwilling to accept a negative. I was taught that a negative result might be disappointing, but it is a good result. Accept it. Document it. Move on. Science is suffering with this politicization junk, but this isn't new. I ended my last email with my friends by retaliating to their "denialist" nonsense by calling them "flat earthers". I know it wasn't mature, but it is accurate in that a lot of the flat earth and earth centrist scientist during the Dark Ages were the majority view and supported by politicians of the time.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Maybe this is a pedantic point, but humans--- particularly seafarers --- have known since antiquity that the world was round. The Greeks worked this out mathematically about 3 centuries B.C. Educated early Christians, like Basil of Caesarea and Ambrose of Milan, as well as those in Alexandria, were well-versed in both the philosophy and the mathematics of the Greeks.

Now, the bit about the sun being the center of the solar system is a different matter. Ptolemy thought the earth was the center, and that matter wasn't corrected for a number of centuries, since Ptolemaic geocentric math with its epicycles actually worked out pretty well.