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To: 1rudeboy

>> In the days of the Soviet Union, one could not join the priesthood without approval of the State. Think about that for a minute. <<

This is true. And it was true also in Poland. The Soviets were wrong about Pope John Paul II, and I don’t imagine they were always right about the Orthodox. Among the orthodox, concealing one’s true faith is even more critical, because SOMEONE must keep alive the flame. I have no reason to suppose Kirill was the closeted anti-communist hero John Paul was, but neither do I have reason to suppose that those who reformed Russia after the fall of communism were fools to believe in him.


81 posted on 05/13/2014 1:43:02 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; 1rudeboy
I have no reason to suppose Kirill was the closeted anti-communist hero John Paul was, but neither do I have reason to suppose that those who reformed Russia after the fall of communism were fools to believe in him.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Kirill was elected recently in 2009, and all the candidates also had codenames with the KGB. He is not a 'reformer' at all. He is a replacement for the last Kremlin controlled patriarch.

Your hero Kirill, when not making money from selling cigarrets, gets involved in stupid stuff like airbrushing out watches from publicity photos of his website:

"When accused of wearing a Swiss Breguet watch worth over £20,000, Kirill denied having worn it, saying that any photographs showing him wearing it must be fakes. However, photographs on his official website showed it on his wrist[43] and one even showed it airbrushed out, but with a reflection of it still visible on a table surface.[53] Kirill responded by saying that "the guilty ones [for the image manipulation] will be punished severely".[53] A spokesperson added that it was "unethical" to discuss Kirill's private life, and the Russian Orthodox Church said on 4 April 2012 that foreign forces were taking revenge on it for supporting Putin: "The attacks have become more prominent during the pre-election and post-election period [... This] shows their political and also anti-Russian motives."[43] In June 2012, Kirill was given the Silver Shoe Award (given in Russia each year “for the most dubious achievements in show business") for "immaculate disappearance of a watch” in the category "Miracles up to the elbows”. The award found a pained reaction from representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church.[54]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirill_I_of_Moscow#Links_with_the_KGB

84 posted on 05/13/2014 1:51:29 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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