The attack started after the victim reacted aggressively to the bumping. Yes, he took the bait.
Had he apologized for his child or whatever getting in the man’s way, nothing would have happened, except losing a little face.
I have been in this very situation many times, and have yet to get in a fight. I have a couple of hot headed acquaintances that can’t seem to avoid a fight when this happens, one (happened in his 30s) gets to take his teeth out now when he sleeps as he learned what a curb sandwich is.
Our cities belong to the mobs now. There is no “justice” just “just us”. Forget right and wrong. Don’t forget Tryvonne was right and Z man was wrong as far as our society is concerned.
I hope to God you do not CCW i n Ga with the mindset you claim to have. Your position of pushing a street confrontation to a deadly force confrontation because you “have rights” is exactly what the gun grabbers want to see.
If this guy had killed someone after escalating the confrontation via his remarks, he would be found guilty of manslaughter or worse.
“An armed society is a polite society” . In this instance had the victim been polite instead of aggressive when bumped, he likely would not have gotten his beatdown.
““An armed society is a polite society” . In this instance had the victim been polite instead of aggressive when bumped, he likely would not have gotten his beatdown.”
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“Had he apologized for his child or whatever getting in the man’s way, nothing would have happened, except losing a little face.”
**Faulty premise, followed by an invalid conclusion.**
The long, brutal, violent and savagely racist history of Black on White crime contradicts your position.
When Urban Ferals go ‘Polar Bear Hunting’, they are going to beat, injure/kill the white they choose. Evidence that apologizing, cowering, submissive behavior of whatever sort - made any difference in such situations would be interesting. Specifics, please.
“Your position of pushing a street confrontation to a deadly force confrontation because you “have rights” is exactly what the gun grabbers want to see.”
What you describe is not what I wrote. Respectfully, I call your attention to the fact that the the black male pushed the child first. Are you suggesting the White male should have apologized to the Black male attacker because the Black male physically attacked his child?
Aplogizing for Urban Feral attacks is a tough job, one I suggest best left to professional race card players sch as Jackson, Sharpton Holder ad nauseam.
As a firearms instructor, I agree with avoiding a fight when possible, but self preservation now means, in cities with Urban Feral populations, knowing when to shoot.
IMHO, that man is fortunate to have escaped more serious injury/death. Ask yourself what would have happened to the 13 year old white female in the hands of a Black Urban Feral mob.
you know what wrench, even though I would never want to associate with someone who thinks like you, your post was 100% true regarding that blacks now can do anything they want and get away with it and if you dare stand up all govt will come down on you.
I mean in the same situation ghetto man grabs your wife’s a%$^ and the only recourse today is to look down meekly and apologize to the ghetto lords for not offering a better squeeze. I mean that 100% too. Cause if you stand up, well then we’re back to square one of not “avoiding” the situation or fanning the flames.
Not if the jury followed the jury instructions. There is a bright line on use of physical means. Under the law, you can "dis" somebody, call them all sorts of horrible names, and they have NO right to so much as give you a shove. Words alone are NOT escalation, under any criminal statute.
I do agree with your advice to just move on - I disagree with the suggestion to offer an "excuse me." But that said, deciding to gripe to the offender, even to insult them with all your might, that does not amount to sufficient escalation, under the law, to make you criminally culpable. There are plenty of cases on the books that illustrate this. The first one to use force, THAT person started it.