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Insurgents say Ukraine region opts for sovereignty
The Miami Herald ^ | 05-11-2014 | Peter Leonard

Posted on 05/11/2014 4:12:33 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

DONETSK, Ukraine -- Ninety percent of voters in a key industrial region in eastern Ukraine came out in favor of sovereignty Sunday, pro-Russian insurgents said in announcing preliminary results of a twin referendum that is certain to deepen the turmoil in the country.

Roman Lyagin, election chief of the self-styled Donetsk People's Republic, said around 75 percent of the Donetsk region's 3 million or so eligible voters cast ballots, and the vast majority backed self-rule.

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To: goldstategop
Whether true or not... Clearly, in Donetsk they’re not.

You do realize how your post negates itself, right?

101 posted on 05/11/2014 7:54:58 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“This racial tribalism is only being promoted by the Kremlin”

Sure it is...
And the proclamations about wiping out Russian Language and Culture in Ukraine by the Not-A-Nazi Nazis, right after the Not-A-Coup-d’état coup d’état, had nothing to do with it???


102 posted on 05/11/2014 7:57:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
The Mods have taken to removing Ukraine stories, as they invariably deteriorate into a shouting match with the 5 or 6 EuroMaidan trolls, that IMMEDIATELY pop up on any UK thread within minutes, and all at the same time. Why they are still allowed to post is beyond me.

Maybe you should voice your concerns to them directly, letting them know you do not like this anti-Putin bias on FR (lol).

103 posted on 05/11/2014 7:58:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

There have been multiple ‘official’ polls, 3 networks and a dozen cable channels that say the majority of America hates guns and loves Obamacare. What is your point?


104 posted on 05/11/2014 8:00:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: tcrlaf
And the proclamations about wiping out Russian Language and Culture in Ukraine by the Not-A-Nazi Nazis, right after the Not-A-Coup-d’état coup d’état, had nothing to do with it???

You're free to post these "proclamations" whenever you're good and ready so we can all see them.

105 posted on 05/11/2014 8:03:49 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
There have been multiple ‘official’ polls, 3 networks and a dozen cable channels that say the majority of America hates guns and loves Obamacare. What is your point?

Wanna post them?

106 posted on 05/11/2014 8:04:18 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Also, since polls show that Global warming is real, are we to blindly accept ‘polls’ as fact? How about the polls showing the coming Romney landslide?

For a freeper to cite a poll, in Russia no less as some sort of positive for his position is ridiculous at best.


107 posted on 05/11/2014 8:05:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Are you the only person that never say the 24 million discussions about them here or are you new? Not like I posted some novel concept no one ever heard of.


108 posted on 05/11/2014 8:06:33 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yup. new.


109 posted on 05/11/2014 8:07:30 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Also, since polls show that Global warming is real, are we to blindly accept ‘polls’ as fact?

Listen to yourself. You want me to disbelieve polls that show a majority of Ukrainians of whatever ethnicity in the East and South do not want to be annexed... so I can believe a poll by thugs and killers who have been "disappearing" people for weeks now, and who walk around with machine guns and have backup from mysterious heavily armed men in green uniforms. And none of that is BS either. We know people are going missing because people talk about it, fearing that they'll be next.

110 posted on 05/11/2014 8:13:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You’re free to post these “proclamations” whenever you’re good and ready so we can all see them.

The new Ukraine’s first law revokes Russian language rights
http://my.firedoglake.com/fairleft/2014/02/25/ukraine-decides-to-fight-the-russian-language/

Kiev Regime Backs Up on Russian Language Ban
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140417/189251614/Kiev-Regime-Backs-Up-on-Russian-Language-Ban.html

Voiding Ukraine’s minority languages law ‘wrong’ – Luxembourg FM
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-language-lavrov-asselborn-627/http://rt.com/news/ukraine-language-lavrov-asselborn-627/

Ban of Russian as an official language in Ukraine sparks concern among Russian and EU diplomats
http://www.sott.net/article/274702-Ban-of-Russian-as-an-official-language-in-Ukraine-sparks-concern-among-Russian-and-EU-diplomats

Watch Your Tongue: Language Controversy One Of Fundamental Conflicts In Ukraine
http://www.ibtimes.com/watch-your-tongue-language-controversy-one-fundamental-conflicts-ukraine-1559069

Google has a couple of thousand more.
I have posted this info to you many times, yet you continue to deny it. WHY ARE YOU A TRUTH-DENIER, on the wrong side of history?


111 posted on 05/11/2014 8:16:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Considering the guy talking to me expects me to believe on FR one day that the MSM are liars up until the very moment he needs to rely on them to support his biases?

Listening to my half of the discussion would be a wise move for anyone.


112 posted on 05/11/2014 8:17:00 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: tcrlaf
I have posted this info to you many times, yet you continue to deny it. WHY ARE YOU A TRUTH-DENIER, on the wrong side of history?

I'm not sure what you accuse me of "denying." Your wording would have us believe that the Interim government of Ukraine is openly hostile to the Russian language. Aside from maybe the Kremlin-controlled links, do you have anything that shows that the law was passed or, if it was vetoed as a matter of fact, what the Interim government has actually prnounced to do in protection of the Russian language? Be honest now, let's see how you do.

113 posted on 05/11/2014 8:23:38 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

We should be honored that the cast of Dr. Strangelove stopped by to discuss Russia with us I suppose. As in the movie, I think a lot of the aggression comes down to loss of essence.


114 posted on 05/11/2014 8:23:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

QUESTION:
Who are the Terrorists in Ukraine?

The Civilians who want to vote?

Or the Kiev Regime killing them for wanting to vote?


115 posted on 05/11/2014 8:24:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Your wording would have us believe that the Interim government of Ukraine is openly hostile to the Russian langu”

BOVINE EXCREMENT...
Now you are trying to parse again.
You called me out, I proved you wrong. Again.


116 posted on 05/11/2014 8:26:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Listening to my half of the discussion would be a wise move for anyone.

Your half of the discussion is based on news derived from Kremlin controlled news organizations recently taken over by the state, which assert Nazi-like arguments about Russians everywhere actually hating the countries they're in and wanting to be annexed back into the Fatherland because they're in perpetual tribal-warfare with other ethnicities who want to do evil.

If you want me to believe that every poll in out there is part of a conspiracy, why should I believe the poll conducted by armed thugs who are terrorizing the populace? You must realize that your "wise" thinking is actually extremely irrational, and your only appeal is the conspiracy, not any data or any facts you might have over there.

117 posted on 05/11/2014 8:27:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Aside from maybe the Kremlin-controlled links”

GOSH!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!
I didn’t know Firedoglake and The International Business Times were controlled by the Kremlin!!

Do THEY know about this important development???


118 posted on 05/11/2014 8:28:21 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“As in the movie, I think a lot of the aggression comes down to loss of essence”

lol!!
Now, that’s just plain mean...

FUNNY, but mean....


119 posted on 05/11/2014 8:29:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Who are the Terrorists in Ukraine? The Civilians who want to vote?

Yes yes, you're just a friend of democracy. You can certainly embrace these poll results and methods, and right-thinking people will step back and watch and marvel at KGB disinformation in action. Nobody likes liars, so I suspect you are not going to see too many fans of Putin on this forum.

120 posted on 05/11/2014 8:30:57 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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