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Pro-Russian Civilians Killed in Mariupol (Ukraine)
Live Leak ^ | 05/09/2014 | Video

Posted on 05/09/2014 4:23:17 PM PDT by BurningOak

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To: wetphoenix
Ukraine is for Ukrainians, not Russians. And I have no sympathy for those who love their country so little that they want it to become subjugated to another.

The reason many of these people are rioting is because they are ethnic Russians -- they have no other reason for wanting Russia to take over Ukraine. Same type of people as the Mexicans who flood California and wave La Raza banners and burn American flags. I have no patience for them.

21 posted on 05/09/2014 9:00:29 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: wetphoenix

“Whom do you mean by ‘the Russians’?”

Whom do you think?


22 posted on 05/09/2014 9:21:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: BurningOak

You have a city 48% Ukrainian and 44% Russian there will be trouble due to outside agitation. Russia needs this area if they ever hope to support Crimea.


23 posted on 05/09/2014 10:06:57 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: BurningOak
They tried to do what happened in dozens of places before. Armed “separatists” surrounded by a group of hostile civilians, mainly old commies grandpas and young criminals, approach government forces and disarm them as they are cautious about shooting at “civilians”. Then RT and all Kremlin propaganda machine scream that army refuses to obey orders of “Kiev junta”, there's an uprising against “fascists” and all that nonsense.

When 1 armed guy is hiding behind 5 hostile “civilians”, they all should be shot so others will think twice before they try to get in the way of government formations, I know how it sounds but It must get worse before it gets better. Otherwise it all will evolve into long Balkan style disaster with hundreds of thousands killed. That's what Putler is intentionally triggering off, once it turns into full scale massacre, “the world” will forget about Crimea, he will get away with it and many other concessions in exchange for stopping the disaster he created. That's what they have been doing with Iran, we can enable them to get nukes... or not but why should we do that ? Kremlin never cared about people, even their own.

24 posted on 05/10/2014 9:24:15 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: vladimir998

“Ukrainians have the exclusive right to decide what happens to Ukraine.”

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Not according to this guy:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing

If your ‘nation’ is polite fiction in peacetime, and a speedbump to real powers during wartime, you might just be a wog to the EU.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 10:54:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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“Not according to this guy”

Yes, even according to him because he knows the Ukrainians have to approve of EU membership by law before the EU has any say in Ukraine. It also works in reverse the same way. Turkey wants into the EU. So far the EU has said no.


26 posted on 05/10/2014 11:03:02 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Grzegorz 246; BurningOak

“They tried to do what happened in dozens of places before. Armed “separatists” surrounded by a group of hostile civilians, mainly old commies grandpas and young criminals, approach government forces and disarm them as they are cautious about shooting at “civilians”. Then RT and all Kremlin propaganda machine scream that army refuses to obey orders of “Kiev junta”, there’s an uprising against “fascists” and all that nonsense.”

EXACTLY RIGHT!!!


27 posted on 05/10/2014 11:05:09 AM PDT by vladimir998
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