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To: jagusafr
Yeah, that was an issue all the way back to the 70’s when I came in. During a base infiltration on Ton Son Nhat AB by the Viet Cong in 1968, they found a lot of airman killed who had no immediate access to firearms. They were slaughtered.

So HQ USAF issued a study that took several years to complete, which proved there was a huge, glaring hole in air base defense, and all the AP/SPs and augmentees couldn't fill it, especially in the first few minutes. In fact, it was well known that for high priority EUCOM bases, Soviet Army units where given the mission to take out all assets as a precusor to overall combat. They would be led by Spetznatz trained officers, but didn't need Spetznatz troops because the Soviets didn't think unarmed airmen would be too much of a problem.

I believe Tom Clancy wrote about this in Red Storm Rising, where the war begins with Spetznatz forces infiltrating the Metro Tango facility at Hahn AB and kill everyone in the command post.

I worked USAFSS/ESC/AFIC in Europe. The joke we used to tell before the fall of the Warsaw Pact/Soviet Union was, "If we (in the SCIF) were dead, the war must have started."

106 posted on 05/08/2014 4:03:39 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

“During a base infiltration on Ton Son Nhat AB by the Viet Cong in 1968, they found a lot of airman killed, who had no immediate access to firearms. They were slaughtered.”

After Kennedy was killed, LBJ proceeded to make and put a lot of our military people into unarmed and helpless targets, often in harm’s way as your post.

LBJ, put the Pueblo and Liberty in harm’s way and failed to back them up.


116 posted on 05/09/2014 8:37:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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