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Ukrainians form militias to defend nation against chaos
Kyiv Post ^ | May 7, 2014, 11:13 p.m. | Mark Rachkevych

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:21:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

In the absence of effective military forces or law enforcement, Ukrainians are taking the defense of the nation in their own hands through loosely organized militias.

One of them popped up in a YouTube video on May 2.

Although the group was unidentified, the clip was posted by a pro-Ukrainian group of former military and law enforcement officers, calling themselves the Donbass Volunteer Battalion. The video shows men armed with Kalashnikov rifles and clad in black ninja outfits dismantling a Kremlin-backed roadblock near Krasnoarmiysk in western Donetsk Oblast.

The national warriors also claim that 15 pro-Russian rebels were handed over to the police and that three Kalashnikovs were recovered.

The group’s leader, Semyon Semenchenko, wrote on his Facebook page that the group is “taking up arms and structuring like the Ukrainian Insurgent Army,” the World War II era partisan group that fought both Nazi Germany and Soviet NKVD units in a futile attempt to gain national independence for Ukraine.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bandera; ftheeu; graystone; kiev; odessa; rightsector; russia; svoboda; ukraine
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To: DTA
Perhaps up to 300 civilians were murdered in Odessa May 2nd by Ukrainian Nazi Right Sector and their NATO instructors. Murderers you call genuine patriots.

I like how you multiply the victims by 10. If you don't want your Russkie terrorists to die, tell them not to play with guns or molotov cocktails around Ukrainian patriots. The fire came from the top floors, where the shooters and terrorists were, as well as from the bottom floor. That means the Russkies don't have good throwing arms.

61 posted on 05/08/2014 4:53:07 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DTA; GeronL
You play with words. "Ukraininian" is citizenship as well as ethnicity.

This is a lie Russian nationalists spread. As a matter of fact, the Maidan was populated by Russians, Jews, ethnic Ukrainians and many other ethnicities. And even in the East and South, polls show that your supposed La Raza (Russian version( folks, do not support Separatism. Ukraine is a diverse country, not a ghetto of opposing racial tribes like Russia wants us to believe.

62 posted on 05/08/2014 4:55:56 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DTA; GeronL
Svoboda and Right Sector run Ministry of Interior and two other departments. They ARE Nazis, as their Odessa handiwork shows.

Right Sector has no governmental presence or representation, and Svoboda is a minority party that is polling in the 1 to 2 percentile. They also, rather officially, deny Nazi ideology, even if they were harder up for it in the past.

63 posted on 05/08/2014 4:57:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DTA
Imagine living in California and China installing Aztlan junta in power, outlawing English and calling all Californians of Anglo-Saxon extraction "invaders". USSR was built by Wall-street sponsored Communist thugs. Tens of millions of Russians were murdered. Rusian land was cut into "republics" and Russian people found themselves divided.

Imagine living in a country where the Soviet underground structures props up corrupt leaders and infiltrates your society with false fronts, spies and saboteurs. And imagine living in a country where, unlike in your fantasy, millions of your people really were killed, in a event known as the Holodomor.

Tens of millions of Russians were murdered.

LOL, are you referring to dead Ukrainians as Russians? Where in the world have tens of millions of Russians died in any holocaust? Or are you referring to Russia's own murder of its own people?

64 posted on 05/08/2014 5:00:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: free_life

A few facts for you.

“Russia has invaded the Ukraine.” AFTER a violent, anti-Russian, US-financed (by Victoria Nuland’s own admission) coup.

“The Ukraine has not invaded Russia.” But one of the VERY first acts of the coup government was to try and outlaw Russian Language and culture within Ukraine.

You forgot to mention the part where the legit government falls in a US-financed, violent, ant-Russian coup. I fixed it for you.


65 posted on 05/08/2014 5:21:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“your supposed La Raza”

Lol, I knew you were lying...
What boiler room are you in? The MaidanPR-run one in Kiev?


66 posted on 05/08/2014 5:23:33 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Right Sector has no governmental presence or representation,”

Lol...
Keep pimping that lie, and I’ll keep calling you a liar, K?
I find you to be NO different than the OFA/SEIU-paid internet trolls at election time.


67 posted on 05/08/2014 5:24:59 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; Admin Moderator; GeronL
Lol... Keep pimping that lie, and I’ll keep calling you a liar, K? I find you to be NO different than the OFA/SEIU-paid internet trolls at election time.

I usually post in the Religion forum, but is calling someone else a liar allowable on different parts of the forum? Just wondering. I'll start applying the rule right away. As for my "lie," you're free to name all the Right Sector members of government whenever you're ready.

68 posted on 05/08/2014 5:27:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
You forgot to mention the part where the legit government falls in a US-financed, violent, ant-Russian coup. I fixed it for you.

No, still broken.

Yanukovich's Berkut killed 80+ protesters, most unarmed. He then left the country instead of facing an arrest warrant.

69 posted on 05/08/2014 5:29:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Despite ALL of the facts, easily available to anyone with the ability to use google or Youtube, you still deny them.

That makes you, imho, a liar, or worse, an AGITATOR....


70 posted on 05/08/2014 5:30:26 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; free_life; GeronL
A few facts for you. “Russia has invaded the Ukraine.” AFTER a violent, anti-Russian, US-financed (by Victoria Nuland’s own admission) coup.

Where is that admission? It does not exist. The only thing the U.S. has admitted to is giving 5 billion over 20 years, during which time many opposing politicians have come to power and gone. And Ukraine isn't the only country we throw money away at.

“The Ukraine has not invaded Russia.” But one of the VERY first acts of the coup government was to try and outlaw Russian Language and culture within Ukraine.

Notice you say "try." Who do you think stopped the attempt? The same "Neo-Nazi" leaders of the Interim Government you are simultaneously trying to depict as anti-Russian, even when ethnic Russians themselves were involved in the Maidan to begin with.

A new poll was even released to day, by the way, on top of all the other ones, demonstrating the majority of Ukrainians of all stripes oppose separatism and the Russian government's violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. Maybe that's why you're getting more vicious in your posts, Putinista?

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/05/08/despite-concerns-about-governance-ukrainians-want-to-remain-one-country/

71 posted on 05/08/2014 5:31:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: FreeReign

And all of those cops that were burned alive at the Maidan??

Funny you didn’t mention them.

The Maidan didn’t turn violent until the radicals financed by our own government showed up. And that fact should raise an eyebrow on any thinking American.


72 posted on 05/08/2014 5:32:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Despite ALL of the facts, easily available to anyone with the ability to use google or Youtube, you still deny them. That makes you, imho, a liar, or worse, an AGITATOR....

I can't help but to notice that you failed to answer my challenge. If you claim the evidence is there that Right Sector has members in the government, you should be able to show me rather easily what their names are, when they were elected, or what position they have been appointed to, if any of that applies.

73 posted on 05/08/2014 5:33:33 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
You forgot to mention the part where the legit government falls in a US-financed, violent, ant-Russian coup. I fixed it for you.

What? You're post was filled with false information that I corrected. You actually have a problem with that?

74 posted on 05/08/2014 5:36:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Dude, that question has been answered MANY times. I’ve tried many times to be reasonable with you, and you aren’t even remotely interested. I’m not going to waste my time with you, anymore. You call anyone not swallowing your BS a “paid Russian” or worse.

Your hatefulness and spite are on clear display for anyone to see, and do little to help your cause.

I want FACTS, not spin and propaganda. You have only spin, worthy of a Kos Kiddie.

I only have two question. WHO is paying you, and the question you refuse to answer, WHO exactly is “MaidanPR”?


75 posted on 05/08/2014 5:40:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
The Maidan didn’t turn violent until the radicals financed by our own government showed up. And that fact should raise an eyebrow on any thinking American.

The first violence was committed by Yanukovich's Berkut. The first violence was not committed by Maiden protesters.

76 posted on 05/08/2014 5:40:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf; GeronL; FreeReign; All
Dude, that question has been answered MANY times. I’ve tried many times to be reasonable with you, and you aren’t even remotely interested.

As a matter of fact, you have never answered the question. Keep in mind that you are trying to make me believe something you and I both know has never happened. Unless your aim is to confuse the audience?

You call anyone not swallowing your BS a “paid Russian” or worse.

I don't think I've ever used the phrase 'Paid Russian," though I have accused people of being puppets and backers of the regime; and I most certainly do not accuse everyone of being a Russian. I also do not even agree with making this a 'Russian' issue. A lot of the sources I follow are, themselves, Russian dissidents who are under threat from the regime in power in Moscow. This is an issue of the Soviet structures in Russia that need to be dismantled, not the Russian ethnicity or culture.

I only have two question. WHO is paying you, and the question you refuse to answer, WHO exactly is “MaidanPR”?

You have never before asked me this question, and I do not even know what it means! What IS MaidanPR? I am starting to think that maybe you are dead and actually the Russian GRU is just using your profile now on FR.

77 posted on 05/08/2014 5:48:52 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“I am starting to think that maybe you are dead and actually the Russian GRU is just using your profile now on FR.”

Yeah, that’s it...
What a maroon....


78 posted on 05/08/2014 5:50:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: FreeReign

Do your homework, the first violence was committed by Right Sector tri-zubs against police in the early spring of 2013 which became the genesis for the Kiev Maidan.


79 posted on 05/08/2014 6:06:01 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Do your homework, the first violence was committed by Right Sector tri-zubs against police in the early spring of 2013 which became the genesis for the Kiev Maidan.

Euromaiden protests began on November 21, 2013.

November 30, 2013 was the first violence and it was by Yanukovich's Berkut against the protesters.

There was no justification for it.

None!

80 posted on 05/08/2014 6:19:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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