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To: Mariner
I didn't call you a thing, I asked. That's a wake up call, not an accusation and I as a nation we're currently accomplices any way you cut it. As individuals, well, if we can't get our own government to abide by the Constitution within our own country all we can do is send what little help we can to whoever we can find that will do something.

The Catholic Church used to do a lot of things right, then came the sixties and a whole horde of Americans who were never taught, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Of course, that's a matter of opinion I guess and what do I know, I've only been Catholic a couple of years so I judge by what I've read.

47 posted on 05/07/2014 6:33:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
The last reference I can find of Catholic Church advocating for war:

In April 1917, two weeks after President Woodrow Wilson declared war on Germany, Cardinal James Gibbons of Baltimore, the de facto head of the U.S. Catholic church, issued a letter that all Catholics were to support the war.[27] The Episcopalian bishop of New York, William Manning said the following:

Our Lord Jesus Christ does not stand for peace at any price...Every true American would rather see this land face war than see her flag lowered in dishonor...I wish to say that, not only from the standpoint of a citizen, but from the standpoint of a minister of religion...I believe there is nothing that would be of such great practical benefit to us as universal military training for the men of our land.

If by Pacifism is meant the teaching that the use of force is never justifiable, then, however well meant, it is mistaken, and it is hurtful to the life of our country. And the Pacifism which takes the position that because war is evil, therefore all who engage in war, whether for offense or defense, are equally blameworthy, and to be condemned, is not only unreasonable, it is inexcusably unjust.[28]

However the Church does still teach Just War Doctrine in Catechism. It's just that none of the clergy seems to believe in it.

51 posted on 05/07/2014 7:32:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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