Didn’t seem a mess to me and my wife when we spent three weeks there five years ago. In fact, we thoroughly enjoyed the trip. Take a trip there some time miss Marmelstein, you might enjoy it as well.
Oh, please. I’ve been to Ireland more times than I care to admit. And I spent at least one decade of my life with the flotsam and jetsam of Irish immigrants who overrun New York City whenever their society and economy falls apart. Freepers seem to have a weird affection for the Irish - not reciprocated, I might add - that completely amazes me.