Posted on 05/06/2014 10:08:26 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
“The problem is that the Tea Party isnt really a party, its just an idea, and in fact it pretty much a million different ideas since there is no structure, no platform, etc. In fact, the Tea Party is essentially a million Tea Parties of One.”
Gee imagine that, freedom of thought.
The ‘Tea party’ is the only party which adheres to standards of responsible government. Their allegiance is to the Constitution rather than power and money sought by the presiding oligarchy.
Electoral civics quiz.
Concerning whether or not the current uni-party governance is sustainable:
Is the debt going away?
Is government spending and regulation declining?
Are taxes being reduced?
Is the economy improving?
Are Americans’ rights being restored?
As long as the problems remain so will the public’s opposition to them.
>> If the TP doesnt up its game and recruit better candidates they will just become irrelevant and the Republicans will start sliding left again. <<
Your analysis is basically spot on.
The trouble as I see it, however, is this:
A concrete entity called “the TP” doesn’t really exist. What virtually everybody calls the “Tea Party” is actually a vague agglomeration that consists mainly of (a) sincere grassroots conservative voters; (b) DC-based fund raisers, some of whom are probably no more than scam artists; and (c) political amateurs at the local level, many of whom yearn prematurely for national attention before they’ve earned their spurs in retail politics.
Therefore IMHO, it’s probably something of a pipe dream to suppose that such an agglomeration — no matter how sincere and dedicated its grassroots supporters may be — can ever truly “up its game and recruit better candidates.”
I understand what you are saying, but to me it often appears that the spring elections are essentially a general election to the GOPe but a primary for our Tea Party candidates.
That's where you come in.
Get involved, go to tea party meetings and join any that you can travel to.
It's all about grassroots, get involved!
One tea party group in 2010 endorsed 10 candidates that Sarah Palin also endorsed and they all won.
That was essential in getting the dems out of top leadership in the house.
Only if it is their pet candidates---read those that go along with the dems policies.
They spend millions to destroy good Conservative Tea Party type GOP candidates.
It's up to us and the other millions in the TPM and other grassroots orgs to get out there and work on getting Conservatives elected.
The GOPe would rather lose to a dem then see a conservative republican get elected instead.
Who was a lock to beat Reid? NV is a pretty solid blue state at this point. Who was the lock? Was it the newscaster without political experience or Tarkanian’s son? Are either a lock?
Like most things in politics. Angle has been re-written. She beat Reid hard in their debate. He beat her in turnout. She made campaign mistakes along the way, but what candidate doesn’t? I probably would have voted for one of the other candidates in the primary at the time, but there’s no way to play monday morning QB and say she sucked and someone else guaranteed to win.
Did you post to the wrong person?
“The Tea party is the only party which adheres to standards of responsible government. Their allegiance is to the Constitution rather than power and money sought by the presiding oligarchy.”
Well, then, could you please point me to THE Tea Party platform that embodies those ideals? Because when I googled “Tea Party Platform” it turned up dozens of sites claiming to be THE Tea Party.
As far as I can tell, THE Tea Party is basically just a “herd” of cats, and the results of this herd of cats is pretty much what you could expect from a herd of cats.
Really tired of taking it on the chin? Are you serious!
I give you Bush92, Dole96, Bush00-04 won by skin of his teeth, McStain08, and Romney12.
They are tired of losing? Since when? Do you and the GOPE have some other definition of what losing means?
And in 10 and 12 just as many gope senate candidates go their Rovian butts kicked as tea party candidates.
Marginalize the conservative base at you own risk, it cost you the presidency in 2012, it will in 14 and 16 as well. But alas the gope always knows best, right...
Flame away but I’m beginning to think handing the GOPe the Senate is a bad idea.
I’m already seeing Amnesty shoved back down our throats with the “bipartisan, working together to solve our problems and make America and the economy stronger by getting these undocumented workers out of the shadows...” CRAP.
I agree. Better to let a Dem majority wave thru Baraq’s Supreme Court nominees and seal our doom completely!
Yeah, because we KNOW how HARD the GOP FOUGHT to stop Sotomayer and Kagin.
And of course don’t forget that long entrenched battle over Eric Holder’s nomination.
“Well, then, could you please point me to THE Tea Party platform that embodies those ideals? Because when I googled Tea Party Platform it turned up dozens of sites claiming to be THE Tea Party.”
Perhaps you’re simply a troll?
A 5-second Bing search produced a rather faithful representation of the Taxed Enough Already (<<Big Clue there) platform:
http://www.teaparty-platform.com/Tea_Party_Movement_Platform.html
House Republicans don’t need that seat in 2015 and 2016.
I’d be much more supportive of Ellmers losing than Susan Collins losing.
Susan Collins is 5 times more important than any House member.
I think FreedomWorks is a big part of the problem. I don’t trust them.
Not a troll. You simply chose to list A SINGLE one of the dozens of websites that have “tea party” in their name.
To prove my point, I’ve listed my google search:
“tea party website”
https://www.google.com/#q=%27tea+party+website%22
so that anyone who cares can check the veracity of my claim for themselves, that claim being that the Tea Party is more like a herd of cats than an actual political party that’s capable of doing much more than getting a random candidate or two elected in DEEP DEEP DEEP red states.
(BTW, I just LOVE your claim that i must be a troll merely because I disagree with you. Isn’t that the kind of argument a “Progressive” would make? You know, insults and name-calling? Perhaps the Tea Partiers have more in common with the Progressives than they realize. Of course, that’s assuming you’re representative of a Tea Partier.)
Who cares how many websites there are or how many ways “fiscal responsibility” and “reducing the debt” are described? Any one of these initiatives is far beyond the intent or capability of the current leadership. I’ll take any one of them over the oligarchy’s platform.
You have a bigger civic issue if you’re looking at a party platforms versus party values. Is the Constitution a ‘platform’? Maybe you should consider one of the Leftist parties. They’re rather big on platforms, 5-year plans, Forward, Progress quotas and equality. They have lots of rules, numbers, and statistics for you to obsess over.
The Captains of The Chambers of Commerce of America steering the Republican Titanic straight towards the Iceberg of Moderation.
Values, good intentions, and principals are useless unless they can effect positive change, and a herd of cats can’t do much more than mill about - pretty much like the many different Tea Parties.
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