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Is Obama Wrong on Ukraine?
Townhall.com ^ | May 6, 2014 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 05/06/2014 5:03:11 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/06/2014 5:03:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No. He’s wrong on EVERYTHING...


2 posted on 05/06/2014 5:04:58 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

Do we really need to break out the Magic 8 Ball on this one?


3 posted on 05/06/2014 5:05:50 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: jsanders2001

IMO, got to give the devil his due on this one, I also am not in favor of entering any war in the Balkans or Eastern Europe, period. There is no upside for us in any such engagements. NATO countries, unfortunately, we are treaty bound to be involved with but equally unfortuantely with most of these countries when we say NATO we basically mean the US as few of these countries have any military significance.

Circa 1990 of course we had armed supremacy, now we do not. These “trip wire” type wars between nuke powers can rapidly spin out of control and move onto the tactical and strategic engagements IMO and that is a no win for us or for the planet. Reminds me of the line from “the Enforcer” wherein Eastwood is told by the black guy at the black VFW we are just waiting for all you white folk to blow each other up so we can move right in.


4 posted on 05/06/2014 5:18:35 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Kaslin

There is nothing we can really do to help the Ukraine.
Obama pretty much gutted the military and we are mired in 2 wars now as it is.
Maybe send a squadrion of A10s but they are heading to the trash heap.


5 posted on 05/06/2014 5:20:31 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Kaslin

>overthrow Bashir al Assad

Why? He was able to keep the islamonuts somewhat under control. So what if he didn’t use kid gloves on the muzzy protesters and those seeking to implement sharia law.


6 posted on 05/06/2014 5:20:56 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Kaslin

Does a SHEITE Bear in the woods?


7 posted on 05/06/2014 5:24:26 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Hold the Thought. .About to have a blues attack. Now gone pecan. . .)
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Is OhVomit right about ANYTHING?


8 posted on 05/06/2014 5:25:31 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Yorlik803

>There is nothing we can really do to help the Ukraine.

Gotta agree. Pretty much anything sent over there is just pissing into the wind. The Euros are going to have to learn how to play power politics again.


9 posted on 05/06/2014 5:27:51 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Doesn’t matter, when it comes to the Current Occupant, the Magic 8 Ball is ALWAYS rigged to come out either “Reply hazy try again” or “Very doubtful”.


10 posted on 05/06/2014 5:31:20 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Kaslin
Obama is wrong on everything as far as I am concerned. Also, once the “Freedom Fighters” in Syria are finished, after a stop in Eastern Europe, they will end up fighting for “freedom” in the United States of America. They will be fighting for the “freedom” to cut off heads, cut throats, rob. rape, and plunder. Last but not least, more of the “freedom fighters” are arriving in the United States each day. They will be put on Government Assistance [money and food] instructed to keep a low profile and assigned to a group known as “sleeper cells” until ordered into action to fight for “freedom”. Anyone interested in seeing the fruits can go to youtube.com any one of the numerous websites on the inner-net.
11 posted on 05/06/2014 5:37:50 AM PDT by sport
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No. He’s wrong on EVERYTHING...

That is no joke. On every topic/issue I know anything about I can tell you that his position is wrong. Not just sort-of wrong but fundamentally flawed.

On matters of opinion he and I seem to be diametrically opposed.

This leads me to the reasonable conclusion that even on issues I may not be well informed on, or not well informed on yet (not having bothered to research) I can fairly well estimate that whatever position he is advocating it is almost certainly factually wrong and/or I would disagree with it in some way as a matter of opinion/conscious.

12 posted on 05/06/2014 5:45:06 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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I thought there was an executive order proposed by Senator Sean Penn that made it illegal to say that Obama is wrong...
13 posted on 05/06/2014 5:57:01 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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Obama is no more wrong on Ukraine than a blind man who paints himself into a corner.

With all the good options killed long ago by ineptitude and lack of foresight, Obama is left with the option of begging even as Putin sticks a “Kick Me” on Obama’s back.


14 posted on 05/06/2014 6:08:10 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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It isn’t so much that Obama is wrong on Ukraine. I think the real problem is he is coming across as so weak and vacillating. From his weak actions and mealy mouthed speeches it is easy to visualize the world school yard with Putin the bully and Obama the p***y. You have to stand up to a bully but Obama continues to roll over and play the p***y.
Obama, and the US, is weak because Obama is perceived as being weak.


15 posted on 05/06/2014 6:13:30 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Kaslin

The proper question is “Is Obama Wrong?”

And the answer in all cases, is “Yes.”


16 posted on 05/06/2014 6:14:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Is Obama Wrong on Ukraine?

Obama AND the Socialist DemoRats are wrong and lying on EVERYTHING.

17 posted on 05/06/2014 6:28:57 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ops33

Putin is not a bully. Stop repeating neocon propaganda. Putin is reacting in the way a logical person would expect him to act when the US causes trouble on his borders. We started it and he’s going to finish it with a solution to his own liking because Putin doesn’t take any shit. We should cut our losses and make some kind of diplomatic solution to save face fir everyone before US troops start dying.


18 posted on 05/06/2014 6:37:16 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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"What Would America Fight For?"

American military fights for Al Qaeda in Syria and for IMF in Ukraine. Greystone is fighting for NATO IMF in Ukraine.

State Dept gave 400 stinger missiles to Al Qaeda in Lybia for Syria and more.

The real question is what will Russia fight for?

Albanian Christina Churches Destroyed; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjiBtAGnm6M

Serbian Orthodox Church destroyed by Moslems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOY4LelhH4

Moscow - Europe's Moslem Capital/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aihmte1DWvA

Most Russians don't want moslems in their country and are faced with the same chaotic immigration policies as in the USA. Crimea was 16% Tatar moslem until the Russians took over.

Its just a matter of time till the cork pops and the nukes drop.

19 posted on 05/06/2014 8:22:55 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Mouton

These “trip wire” type wars between nuke powers can rapidly spin out of control and move onto the tactical and strategic engagements IMO and that is a no win for us or for the planet.

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It all makes the centenary of August 1914 seem so quaint, doesn’t it?


20 posted on 05/06/2014 8:31:52 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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