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Bring the Guillotine Back to Death Row
The Atlantic ^ | May 2, 2014 | Conor Friedersdorf

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:14:23 PM PDT by grundle

A quick, painless, gruesome way to carry out capital punishment

If I were governor of a state that executed prisoners I'd declare a moratorium for my entire tenure. I wish that the United States would stop imposing the death penalty. I nevertheless find myself nodding along to Sonny Bunch's case for reintroducing the guillotine, a response to the botched execution of a death-row inmate in Oklahoma.

He argues that America has made its executions bloodless to protect the sensibilities of those who support the death penalty, with less humane killings as a result. (The electric chair. The gas chamber. Lethal injections. All have had horrific problems.)

Bunch writes:

"The guillotine really seems to solve everyone’s problems: It was designed to deliver an efficient, quick, and painless death. It performs that task admirably. I understand the irony of a reactionary such as myself embracing the Terror’s preferred method of execution, but one must give credit where it’s due."

"If we’re going to do something—and a large number of Americans and American states are pretty committed to performing executions—we ought to do it right. And “right” in this case means a quick and painless death. I can’t really imagine any reasonable objections to a widespread adoption of the guillotine."

I can imagine one objection: that the guillotine is barbaric.

But to me, that's a point in its favor. Let's have no illusions about what we're doing when the state carries out the killing of captive prisoners. I imagine support for the death penalty would decline rather quickly once heads started rolling.

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To: BipolarBob
It is actually a pretty painless way to go.

How would you know?

From the time the head is chopped off and the carotid arteries are severed until the time the brain loses all blood and then loses consciousness could be five seconds. Those must be pretty painful and unpleasant seconds.

I just think it's too much of a disgusting mess. Do you have any idea how much of a mess cutting off someone's head makes? Who's supposed to clean that up?

Also, there is too much association with the horrors of the French Revolution, an historical disaster from which we are still recovering (if indeed we ever do). Bullets are cheaper, faster, and less messy. No need for fancy equipment.

41 posted on 05/05/2014 8:00:31 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: BipolarBob

But who is going to clean up the mess?


42 posted on 05/05/2014 8:01:43 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: MUDDOG

Murat was so unbelievably vain. He just could not get over how pretty he was.


43 posted on 05/05/2014 8:03:02 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: grundle

Beheading sounds so ..... mooslum.


44 posted on 05/05/2014 8:05:03 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: grundle

Hanging (when done by an expert as it was in England during the 20th Century) is incredibly quick and unlikely to go wrong. There are horror stories associated with hangings, but they tended to involve situations where the executioner was not a professional.


45 posted on 05/05/2014 8:06:34 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: BeadCounter

Man who survived a firing squad.
http://weirdthings.com/2010/06/the-man-who-survived-10-shots-from-a-mexican-firing-squad-weirdest-survival-stories/


46 posted on 05/05/2014 8:08:52 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: grundle

Garrote seems like it gets the job done without the blood mess.


47 posted on 05/05/2014 8:09:17 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Government by Gun Point.)
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To: naturalman1975
If people want to understand what I mean by hanging done by an expert, check out the movie Pierrepoint which very accurately shows how it was done in England. Albert Pierrepoint came from a family of hangmen and executed at least 400 people - some estimates say 600 - including a number of the Nazis executed after the Second World War. He and others like him got it down to an art form, where the criminal would be painlessly dead within thirty seconds of their cell door being opened.
48 posted on 05/05/2014 8:09:29 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Wallace was not unique in experiencing that form of execution. That was the typical traitor’s death. For a long time there was a saying in England that “if you did not have an ancestor quartered, you are not a gentleman.” Which is to say that the ordinary footsoldier in the armies of any rebellion would not receive such an elaborate execution; only rebellious nobles and other ringleaders of insurrection would be treated this way.

I recall reading of one man executed for religious reasons. He was permitted to die by hanging, but the rope broke. As the executioner organized a fresh rope, the condemned man ran back up the steps of the gallows. He was asked why he hastened to die, and he replied eagerly, “If you had seen what I saw as I was hanging, you would want to die, too.” Or words to that effect. I think he was an English Catholic martyr. Perhaps another Freeper recalls the name of the dead man and has a more accurate account.


49 posted on 05/05/2014 8:10:42 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

^Also make sure brats who like to cause trouble watch to make it clear where they are headed if they keep messing with the law.


50 posted on 05/05/2014 8:11:45 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

*snicker*


51 posted on 05/05/2014 8:12:32 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: grundle

These killers wouldn’t be suffering like this if they hadn’t murdered an innocent person and ended up causing so much more pain to the victim than the murderer ‘suffered’ during their much cleaner execution.


52 posted on 05/05/2014 8:15:53 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: ottbmare

The Blessed Roger Wrenno. Hanged in 1616. You’ve described the story told pretty accurately.


53 posted on 05/05/2014 8:16:18 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: ottbmare
If he hadn't been a Napoleonic general, he could've been in Led Zeppelin:


54 posted on 05/05/2014 8:17:24 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: grundle
Hanging works fine. Even when it goes wrong it still works.

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55 posted on 05/05/2014 8:23:18 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks.


56 posted on 05/05/2014 8:29:16 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Drew68
physician not needed to determine death has occurred

Thanks for the laugh, I needed it.

57 posted on 05/05/2014 8:29:31 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Bogey78O

Should be able to invent a chair that a person is restrained with his head fastened in a rigid state with one of those devices they use to fire a rod into a cow’s head prior to slaughter positioned and angled to do just what you suggested.


58 posted on 05/05/2014 8:30:21 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (It was never Bush's fault...Spock's messing with red matter was what screwed us all up!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Ew. Yuck.

We are not Muslims here, at least not yet. I object to disgusting violent executions because I just think we should get the job done and get the bad guy out of the way as efficiently as possible. Only barbarians throw guts around and make a bloody spectacle out of it. I’m convinced that it’s a better deterrent to put the condemned up against a wall and shoot him quickly than to turn the execution into a party the way the Europeans did.


59 posted on 05/05/2014 8:34:17 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: CorporateStepsister

That could be an interesting episode of Beyond Scared Straight.


60 posted on 05/05/2014 8:48:07 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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