[FreeReign]

I hate being a Putin apologist. And I am no fan of Vlad. But, the Nato countries have been pressing further and further towards the Russian borders.

NATO has nothing to do with it. Ukraine didn't want to become a part of NATO. No side in Ukraine was for that.

[Vermont Lt]

But NATO wanted them, and control of the gas lines.

We stuck our nose under the tent. Putin will not tolerate us playing on ground that has traditionally been Russian territory.