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To: goldstategop

a national dialogue with russia, the country that is busy taking it over?


6 posted on 04/30/2014 8:34:37 PM PDT by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.

This has nothing to do with Russia.

Its the result of Kiev’s incompetence and rulers who are out of touch with the country and who don’t know what they’re doing.

As I noted, people want answers about decentralization of power and turning the economy around and they’ve yet to receive them.


11 posted on 04/30/2014 8:37:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: KOZ.

“a national dialogue with russia, the country that is busy taking it over?”

I think a dialogue with their own citizens would go a long way. The different states are populated with people with vastly different viewpoints. The people of Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine have a long distrust of each other. The West wants nationalism and European ties. The East wants federalism and Russian ties.

It goes back many years. Joe Stalin intentionally starved millions(10+) of ethnic Ukrainians during the Holomodore. They will never forget that. Then the Ukrainian Nationalists(OUN) under Stepan Bandera sided with the Nazis days after Hitler invaded the USSR in WW2, even forming their own volunteer Ukrainian division of the SS. The Russians are still bitter about the betrayal when Hitler was killing their own. The nationalists killed their fair share of fellow Ukrainians, Poles, Jews and Russians too. They actually had their own little holocaust to purge people they feared would not support them. As many as half a million. Ethnic cleansing Ukrainian style. The people in the east will never forget that.

Since then the ultra nationalists have publically stated they want to purge all non ethnic Ukrainians from the country.

Now the Ultra Nationalists hold all important posts in the new Kiev government and imposed a 10% tax on the easterners to finance their efforts.

No wonder these people don’t get along. Too much bad blood. Too much mistrust. They don’t need a strong central government. It would be irresponsible. Sovereign states would be the best way to keep they from oppressing each other. Perhaps with time, things will improve.


26 posted on 04/30/2014 9:14:32 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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