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To: Impala64ssa
Separate AP story on the incident.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teen-shot-killed-mans-garage-germany-23500791

Kaarma went outside with his shotgun. He told investigators he heard a noise that sounded like metal on metal, and he was afraid the intruder would come out and hurt him. He said he did not see anyone in the darkened garage and did not communicate with anyone before sweeping the garage with four shotgun blasts. Dede was struck in the head and arm and died at a Missoula hospital, court records said. Kaarma said he didn't want the suspect to get away and added that police can't catch burglars in the act, the affidavit filed Monday said

Hard to claim you felt threatened when you can't even see the intruder. Just like the guy in Minnesota it looks like a fed up homeowner is going to be convicted because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

23 posted on 04/30/2014 10:20:25 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder
He said he did not see anyone in the darkened garage and did not communicate with anyone before sweeping the garage with four shotgun blasts.

I guess he forgot what he learned in his gun training classes.

26 posted on 04/30/2014 10:25:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Here’s a silly question.

Assuming there are no ordinances where he lives preventing the discharge of a firearm, technically if you don’t know someone is on your property, you can shoot your garage all you want. Right? This is hypothetical, but if I go shooting targets in my back yard and I hit my shed in the process and someone up to no good is in there, gets hit and dies, who’s fault is that? Could I be charged with entrapment?

This guy us an idiot for opening his mouth, btw.


68 posted on 04/30/2014 12:17:07 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: RightOnTheBorder

FWIW,I’m familiar with MN deadly force statutes, not Montana’s.

609.065 JUSTIFIABLE TAKING OF LIFE.
The intentional taking of the life of another is not authorized by section 609.06, except when necessary in resisting or preventing an offense which the actor reasonably believes exposes the actor or another to great bodily harm or death, or preventing the commission of a felony in the actor’s place of abode.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.065

I don’t think a reasonable person believes someone unarmed and dying in front of you is a threat of death or great bodily harm(why the jury did what they did)
If he believed that, he probably wouldn’t come as close as he had to to deliver a ‘kill shot’ under the chin.

The Minnesota homeowner shot one in the head at point blank range after they were no longer a threat and recorded himself taunting before doing so.
(Then he kept the bodies overnight before calling police.)


88 posted on 04/30/2014 2:32:42 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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