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To: caww
Nations recognize the world today is hardwired among nations through oil and other resources.....you can’t just start firing away at war, especially for a welfare state as Ukraine is, which would be a drag on any taking it it on.

Funny enough, the Russians depend on Ukrainian military manufacturing for their ICBMs and other advanced weapons. I suggest you back off with the "Russia has a place on the world stage" and "Ukraine is a welfare state" stuff. You're blowing your cover.

111 posted on 04/29/2014 10:22:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I don’t need a cover so once again you are posting assumptions you choose to defend your position with. That simply doesn’t work on me so you could save your breath with those insinuations.

Meanwhile, to address your statement on Ukraine’s manufacturing for Russia’s military there in East Ukraine....Russia can do it all without Eastern Ukraine if it had to...not impossible to move companies as is done often these days..... So that’s simply not enough to take on Ukraine and all it’s debt.

More than likely Eastern Ukraine will be neutral and work with Russia and EU as they’ve generally done...and that goes for all of Ukraine. The EU is not going to move further with Ukraine then it currently is doing by opening trade and loaning it money....and that will be only with officials placed by the US and Eu in order for it to function and remain in the guidelines the Eu has established necessary for those loans.

I know that Kiev Residents finally are getting it that the EU/ US are NOT going to war with Russia over Ukraine. The mission has been accomplished to “shake out” and create enough chaos so the need would be for a cry for help from outsiders.....that’s a done deal now.

All the rest is simply letting things play out on the ground as they will....but in the end the EU/US economic and political control in Kiev and Russia has Crimea outright.

Sorry you can’t see it but Russia will continue to be involved on the world stage as it is currently...what the Eu/Us have done is moved Putin to other profitable venues with Russia, Asia, and Iran to replace any loss from the EU....not to mention the other Middle Eastern nations.

As we’ve all seen the EU has dragged it’s feet on sanctions....and if you check these are simply temporary...6 months in some cases only. Some won’t even go into effect as it’s all just wind to satisfy those who are insisting ‘something’ be done.

I have attempted to inform you that the world is not as it was during the USSR days....rules have changed as has the manner in which “wars” are fought now. This has been an economic and political war in Ukraine. Both the EU/US and Russia have all gained by it.

Further Ukraine IS a welfare state....that’s just a fact.


112 posted on 04/29/2014 10:52:42 PM PDT by caww
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