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With Ukraine in turmoil, Hagel can’t get Russian counterpart to take his calls
Washington Times ^ | 4-25-2014 | Maggie Ybarra

Posted on 04/25/2014 12:27:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has been unable to get Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on the phone amid escalating tension near the country’s shared border with Ukraine.

Mr. Shoigu announced Thursday that Russia planned to engage in a new series of military exercises near the Ukraine border. The military move, he said, is in response to ongoing NATO training exercises in Poland and the death of at least two pro-Russia insurgents in eastern Ukraine.

Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters Friday that Mr. Hagel has been trying to communicate with Russian officials but has yet to hear back from Mr. Shoigu or anyone else. Pentagon officials have reached out to Russia on Mr. Hagel’s behalf within the past 24 hours, according to Col. Warren.

“We have made it clear to the Russians that Secretary Hagel is available for a phone call at any time,” he said. “We have reached out to them and made it very to them that he is willing to speak to his counterpart there at any time.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cia; hagel; putinsbuttboys; russia; shoigu; ukraine
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To: AU72

Sergei is too busy right now—getting the invasion planned—there is a lot of work to getting right and Mr. Putin doesn’t think much of failure!


21 posted on 04/25/2014 2:56:22 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: alloysteel

There’s that and I guess I wouldn’t take his call either. The man’s a dunce and just doesn’t seem to know anything I want to talk about. God bless caller ID. In his frequent mumblings he hasn’t said a bleeping thing of consequence. And ain’t he the guy who submitted the Vet benefit cuts to Congress? BTW-—does the Kenyan even talk to him?


22 posted on 04/25/2014 5:05:07 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: tcrlaf

“Meanwhile, CNBC was calling for Obama to come up with a “Military Option” for this situation. Are they nuts????”

Its CNBC thinking thou what they put on the air isent part of their job description.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 7:34:18 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: tcrlaf

“I’ve been following some of the lib websites like Kos, and some of the more radical ones.

They have been calling for blood (from military attacks to outright murder)from the beginning of this, for the dire Russian crime of dissing Obama.”

For liberals their dear leaders are everything to them.

Think if we could get a Conservative to run as a minority Liberal democrat.


24 posted on 04/25/2014 7:36:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: familyop

“Answer to the second question: there will be no “nuke on New York,” so the question was invalid. Russia might be capable of physically launching a few before seeing all of its ground positions destroyed, and anything that made it into the air would be destroyed before reaching us.”

That is nonsense, if Russia launched all its missiles at us, we would only be able to shoot down a few of them. The rest would hit somewhere in the ‘general’ vicinity of their targets.

As for Crimea, I have no problem with letting the Russians have it. Its not like it makes a difference to us. Until the 1950’s Crimea was part of Russia as it had been by that point for about 170 years.

Furthermore it actually means something in Eurasia that most of Crimea’s population is ethically Russian.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 7:43:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
"That is nonsense, if Russia launched all its missiles at us, we would only be able to shoot down a few of them. The rest would hit somewhere in the ‘general’ vicinity of their targets."

Only lefties have claimed that our several levels of ABM defense systems are useless. Most enemy weapons would be hit on the ground by current rotations in the air. Cowering from enemy threats is not a good defense answer. It's a traitorous answer.


26 posted on 04/25/2014 8:52:18 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Longbow1969

Of course this isn’t the feared Soviet Army. But it doesn’t have to be. Most of Europe’s Armies are demilitarized.


27 posted on 04/25/2014 9:04:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Monorprise
"As for Crimea, I have no problem with letting the Russians have it. Its not like it makes a difference to us."

That's what many said against getting involved in WWI and WWII. The consequences and casualties from acting so late were heavy. Russia has been threatening to invade Ukraine, running feints on the eastern border and playing other little games.

Putin accused Poland of being behind the ousting of his agents in Ukraine. We're watching to see if the Russian government will follow up the threats with some action, or if it's only comedy relief like their occasional Bear bomber feints and retreats in our northwest (see funny noises made by propellers).


28 posted on 04/25/2014 9:23:12 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Monorprise

“As for Crimea, I have no problem with letting the Russians have it. Its not like it makes a difference to us.”

As for Monoprise, I have no problem with allowing Big Government to expunge his rights of freedom. It’s not like it makes a difference to our freedom.


29 posted on 04/25/2014 9:30:08 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: tcrlaf

“We have made it clear to the Russians that Secretary Hagel is available for a phone call at any time,”

Pathetic,,


30 posted on 04/25/2014 9:30:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: familyop
Only lefties have claimed that our several levels of ABM defense systems are useless.

Whether the commentator is right, left, or in-between, a sudden launch of ICBMs could only be met with retaliation, with very few of the initial missiles interdicted in any way.

31 posted on 04/25/2014 9:41:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: steve86
"Whether the commentator is right, left, or in-between, a sudden launch of ICBMs could only be met with retaliation, with very few of the initial missiles interdicted in any way."

There are quite a few different kinds of equipment in the various layers of ABM defense, and they're computerized. As for retaliation, it's already very close to the enemy.


32 posted on 04/25/2014 11:04:09 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Longbow1969

20% of Russian forces being 1st world equals about 190,000 men able to be deployed right now with logistical support in place.
We can counter that right now how?


33 posted on 04/26/2014 6:41:59 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: familyop
and anything that made it into the air would be destroyed before reaching us.

That is so completely wrong its frightening. Study up on current nuclear doctrine and Rand studies

34 posted on 04/26/2014 6:46:46 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: tcrlaf; therightliveswithus

No problem, Hagle can use the social media like our stateless department to contact Sergei Shoigu and Putie. Then, warn them of a severe HashTag if they don’t respond.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3148959/posts

State Department: Twitter, “Promise of Hashtag” Can Stop Russia from Invading Ukraine
Pundit Press ^ | 4/26/14 | Aurelius

Posted by therightliveswithus

In what might be the worst sign of weakness yet from the Obama Administration and its followers concerning the crisis in Ukraine, on Thursday the State Department put forward the idea that “hashtags” on Twitter could prevent Russia from invading Ukraine.

“The world stands #UnitedforUkraine,” began Jennifer Psaki, the current spokeswoman for the State Department. She continued, “Let’s hope that the #Kremlin & @mfa_russia will live by the promise of hashtag.”


35 posted on 04/26/2014 10:01:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: tcrlaf

“Stop me before I hashtag again!”


36 posted on 04/26/2014 10:02:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf

Hey, Hagel!!! Yeah, you...Hagel!
You can always send em a tweet....LMAO!!!


37 posted on 04/26/2014 10:55:13 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: familyop

“Only lefties have claimed that our several levels of ABM defense systems are useless. Most enemy weapons would be hit on the ground by current rotations in the air. Cowering from enemy threats is not a good defense answer. It’s a traitorous answer.”

Weapons are only destroyed on the ground if we have a leader who is willing and able to act fast enough. Obama is no such leader by any stretch of the imagination.

We will be lucky if Obama even fires back after 3 weeks of UN deliberations regarding the nuking of half our cities.


38 posted on 04/26/2014 11:13:42 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: familyop

“That’s what many said against getting involved in WWI and WWII. The consequences and casualties from acting so late were heavy. Russia has been threatening to invade Ukraine, running feints on the eastern border and playing other little games.

Putin accused Poland of being behind the ousting of his agents in Ukraine. We’re watching to see if the Russian government will follow up the threats with some action, or if it’s only comedy relief like their occasional Bear bomber feints and retreats in our northwest (see funny noises made by propellers).

Putin is making strategic moves to acquire territory and expand Russian influence.

Playing the west west’s ain’t war stupidity to its limits. Putin will make slow gains here and there, but he won’t start a war with the west, and if he does he will quickly back out with a settlement.

In the end Russia gains territory and the economic influence that comes with it while the west settles for peace.

Putin can do this as long as the west, is unwilling to back up their words and play serous poker. With Europe that line is probably the border of Actual EU member states. With theses united States under Obama it is probably just a little closer to Russia but not far from Europe’s line.

In the end Russia knows they can settle anywhere and still end up with more than they started with. Then in 5 years they can do it all again.


39 posted on 04/26/2014 11:22:18 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: rbmillerjr


As for Monoprise, I have no problem with allowing Big Government to expunge his rights of freedom. It’s not like it makes a difference to our freedom.”

Ukrainians are not our countrymen, we have no compact of mutual defense of their rights. If we did then we would be apliged to go and defend it.

As it is however wether Russia owns Crimea(AS Russia did for most of the last 230 years) or the Ukraine does it will make very little difference in Crimena.

In an ideal world the people of Crimea should be able to vote on their fate. But this id not an ideal world so all we are going to get is the “referendum” Russia carried out.

This is of course morally no different than the one the so called ‘union’ carried out occupied Virginia (Modern day West Virginia) during the ‘Civil war’. Our Federal Government thus has no legs to stand upon in insisting otherwise.


40 posted on 04/26/2014 11:30:41 AM PDT by Monorprise
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