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Cliven Bundy -- The Man Who Said Too Much
americanthinker ^

Posted on 04/25/2014 12:20:07 AM PDT by chessplayer

Cliven Bundy could tell you what it’s like to go to sleep as a hero and wake up as a monster; and rightly so on both counts.

The Drudge Report -- which for days assigned the ranch standoff its lead headline -- now links to a Washington Post blog with the Drudge-assigned banner, “Rand Paul, Republicans – RUN!”

Distance themselves, they should, not just because Bundy’s comments are flatly racist,,,His supporters should separate from his cause because his statements go against American ideals on a very basic level.

These comments revolve around the fallacy that slaves could be freer than free persons. Even if the rest of Bundy’s thought process is fair (it’s not) or justifiable (it isn’t), At this core is where the published quotes attributed to the Nevada rancher become the most concerning.

Republicans must distance themselves from the man with the same haste and purpose in which a doctor would remove a gangrenous arm. His comments threaten to taint a movement. His quoted opinions become a weapon to be used against a party with which had just been making headlines for its desire to improve minority outreach. Proper conservatives believe in the value of each individual in very clear terms, but the world will never accept such truths if individuals like Cliven continue to weigh down their message.

The frank truth is that the minorities that he referenced in his tragic racism may spend their lives as takers from the government (simply restating his supposition), but none of them can be accused of living off of government resources and then failing to pay the millions that they owe for it. Who was the drag on our system again, Mr. Bundy?

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To: Hugin

“Williams and Sowell have never said blacks were better off under slavery.”

Neither did Bundy.


21 posted on 04/25/2014 4:02:03 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Mechanicos

Media twisting words again and the “uninformed’ swallowed the bait.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 4:12:09 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: chessplayer

Which teaspoon of medicine to take?

The bitter truth?

Or the sweetest lie?


23 posted on 04/25/2014 4:24:56 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Progov

Everyone is asking why he even brought up the subject of race. Well he said that he noticed among the many people that showed up at his ranch to support him that there were no African Americans. He lamented that the “colored” needed to be part of the fight against government overreach and went on to explain why. If trying to bring people under the shelter of your umbrella is considered racist then this country is truly lost.


24 posted on 04/25/2014 4:45:23 AM PDT by heylady
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To: chessplayer
Another FReeper brought up the term 'intellectual dishonest' in this Bundy case (though using it derisively against FReepers here).

This is a classic example of intellectual dishonesty: Making a statement of opinion without knowing all the facts.

I'm not going to pick apart the whole piece, but the key words here are millions they owe: That's a product of the media.

IMHO, I'd use just one part of what he wrote and combine with my own contribution and save a bunch of hot air:

"Cliven Bundy’s case is an example of government overreach and Media assassination"

(did anyone every confirm that the NYT was actually at the desert 'press conference' where the video was shot and that they identified themselves as NYT? I'm convinced he was baited into opening up. The Bundy family was already on alert for 'false statements', going so far as to warn supporters and media that if it didn't come from the family it might be false. We may never know for sure unless the family is able to confirm it or others present that day come forward)

25 posted on 04/25/2014 4:56:33 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Hugin

The point is the same, i.e., How much progress has been made under the ministrations of the Left?


26 posted on 04/25/2014 5:40:21 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: chessplayer

I think AmericanThinker has an American stinker on board. :-)


27 posted on 04/25/2014 7:47:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

He didn’t say anything that Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell haven’t said a million times.


Can you provide a link to articles where they said blacks today would be better off as slaves?


28 posted on 04/25/2014 9:23:14 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

No.


29 posted on 04/25/2014 9:56:52 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: chessplayer

Now he’s blaming MLK Jr. because people don’t like his racist rant.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/24/politics/cliven-bundy-interview/


30 posted on 04/25/2014 10:21:06 AM PDT by chessplayer
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No, because I’m sure they’ve never said that blacks would be “better off” as slaves.

But, just as they have pointed to particular ways in which blacks have lost ground since Jim Crow, I would not be surprised to find that they have pointed out particular ways in which they have lost ground since slavery.

Slavery was not one long Auschwitz. It was evil, but so are a 90% illegitimacy rate and the abortion of 52% of black babies.


31 posted on 04/25/2014 11:45:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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