Posted on 04/24/2014 4:57:51 PM PDT by Third Person
CLIVEN BUNDY: Now let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they're here and they're people. I worked side-by-side with a lot of them. Don't tell me they don't work, and don't tell me they don't pay taxes. Don't tell me they don't have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they're together. They picnic together. They're spending their time together. And I'll tell you, in my way of thinking, they're awful nice people. We need to have those people join us and be with us.
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He’s RACIST? Harry Reid, what did be day that was racist?
BUNDY!!! You’re boiling your rope. Keep your mouth quiet. You think Reid isn’t waiting to charge you with a hate crime? The media is going to love crucifying you. What’s next? Celebrity Boxing?
can’t disagree with anything in the quote.
we just need to truely close the border. if the people already here apply for legal immigration, and comply with all the existing laws, and jump through all the hoops legal immigrants have to jump through, i’ve got no problem with them “joining us.” after all. i’m a legal immigrant myself.
No. Never pay your grazing fees to the government, nor any f*****g fees if you can get away with it. This government has long ago given up any claims of legitimacy and is deserving of neither loyalty nor financial support. Give them nothing but constant ridicule and the most tasteless forms of disrespect. This is all they deserve.
Funny how the media could give a rip what Bundy says, unless it’s something they can smear him with.
Ummm, he’s a democrat, right?
Does Mr. Bundy have a legal defense fund?
He sure is an ignorant guy, he seems to have lived a tiny isolated life.
He sure is ignorant alright...about a great many things.
Okay, I’m done with Bundy. Next?
Just FYI. Any person who threatens the establishment will be demonized. Your retreat will be never ending.
Thanks for the warning and I’m sure you’re right, but tough crap. Illegan foreign invasions from Mexico need to stop (30 years ago -even Reagan failed here). Killing Obamacare is #1, sealing the border and deporting criminal invaders is #2. Bundy can officially KMA now.
Why? Under your proposition, there would be a good argument that FR needs to gagged.
I like him better after hearing his opinions - some based on logical thought and others on personal experience. Not all may be convenient to others, but they are viable and he has the right to express them.
We aren’t God, anyhow. We can’t command real people to do anything. So often we act as though we could. But it’s a vain exercise.
What we CAN do is seek for God and obey His heart desires. Bundy sounds, perhaps, a bit ignorant. But there could be gracious ways to help him wise up. It’s not about us in the end anyhow. It’s about God.
You are correct - it is about God. Being a Christian sometimes puts me in conflict with some of the issues I want handled in certain ways because I am a selfish, self-serving Human at the core of who I am - we all suffer similar traits despite the "goodness of our hearts". I believe the borders should be locked down and the illegals deported.
The Bible says things like: When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
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You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the sojourners who reside among you and have had children among you. They shall be to you as native-born children of Israel. With you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
My personal sense of right and wrong puts me in conflict with my faith. My personal sense is also based on what is best form me in a financial and Freedom oriented set of memes.
I don't think Bundy needs to be wised up - he has opinions based on experiences and is able to communicate them well. We may not fully agree with them, but they speak to a Truth that is part of who he is.
Christ calls us to be ready to sacrifice things that might otherwise be rightfully ours, for some other purpose of His.
One big problem with liberalism as we know it in the west is that it is usually chintzy about being liberal with its own resources, and big about trying to coerce others into being liberal with theirs. Salvation is about blessings, not about curses. And blessings are voluntary.
I absolutely agree. One Biblical truism that the Liberals seem to wish to ignore is "If a man will not work, he should not eat". I am wiling to feed those that cannot feed themselves, but it torques me to be forced to pay for those who simply will not feed themselves. That causes another Christian conflict - I would stop feeding the lazy and Jesus told us to "Resist not a evil person" and also added that when a man takes our shirt, give him our coat too. Obedience to the Lord is difficult - especially when one is interested in politics, the Constitution, and Freedom.
Some of the Lord’s dictums seem to be in the sense of proverbs. I.e. it doesn’t mean every single solitary time; it means that there is a propitious time to do it.
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