Posted on 04/24/2014 1:32:00 PM PDT by Dave346
Question is at what point do the warnings finally end and turn into action?
Note to Israel: Beware of any red line Obama seems to have pledged.
I don’t blame Israel one bit
hell, I can’t handle the traitorious behavior of our administration either
Fact Iran is a rogue state
Fact; neocons & isralis (behind the scenes) got us into 2 wars we could have handled differently
Fact 3 war with iran ain’t worth it
Let's look at it from a different viewpoint. A guy on your block comes rushing at you, do you attack him? No. A guy on your block threatens to kill you, do you attack? Probably not. A guy on your block threatens to kill you and your entire family and burn your house down, gathers a bunch of goons in the neighborhood at his side, and stockpiles a bunch of deadly weapons pointed at you, do you now attack him? Oh, a neighbor a mile away warns the guy to not use the biggest weapon, but doesn't bother stopping him otherwise. At this point, do his warnings matter at all? Will the warnings ever turn into action? You or I could move away. Israel can't. You betcha that Israel will take action long before Obama ever does. Her survival requires it.
Obama is just buying time for his fellow Islamists to get their nukes built.
at what point do the warnings finally end and turn into action?
Remember Syria?
Is war near?
It will have to be, Israel has to strike before Iran gets nukes; we certainly won’t under El-Presidente. The only people he is serious about stopping are Republicans and Conservatives.
“We will not allow Iran to manufacture a nuclear bomb.”
The Bush administration used to say the same thing about North Korea. That and “North Korea is 2-5 years away from getting a bomb”. Then a funny thing happened. One day the tested one, and nobody even pretends they will do anything about it anymore.
The Mossad should detonate a ‘dirty’ bomb near the Iranian nuclear facilities, then deny any knowledge of what happened, “Oh my! What a shame! The Iranians must have blown themselves up with their nuclear experiments.”
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No reason they should. The purported Iran-US accord is as significant to Israel as the Hitler-Stalin accord to Poland.
Fact; neocons & isralis (behind the scenes) got us into 2 wars we could have handled differently
1. Israel and neoconservatives are different.
2. which wars? Iraq War 1 fought for Kuwait or Iraq War 2, which Ariel Sharon opposed?
Fact 3 war with iran ain’t worth it
Iran's government chants "Death to America" It's leaders declare that they will sacrifice their country for thier aims. They believe a riegn of fire on them will bring their messiah. And barring that, an Iranian nuke means a Saudi, Egptian and Turkish nuke. And that means terrorists nuke America.
Israel has there own (REAL) red line and will act quickly and precisely. The attack will be calculated to bring the US into the fray. The only question is, what is Israel’s red line? A test, X amount of enriched uranium, who knows?
you can say Iran is in a state of war with us in the same way North Korea is. They do various things against us, but it not like its full fledged war. OK maybe neo-cons and Israelis are different. Iraq I was done for oil and the Bushies love for the Saudi royals. Those girls were scared sh*tless. Even though Saddam attacked Israel with Exocet missiles, I can’t say that Israelis instigated that one. But they did instigate Iraq II. Don’t you think Israelis and neocons (largely Jewish) are working hand and hand? Saddam really couldn’t do us very much harm. By the time 2004 rolled around he was so incapacitated due to the bombings etc that had occurred since the Gulf War. Look at the place now with all those Americans dead and wounded —a cesspool before and a cesspool now. Did our soldiers die for nothing? Israeli PMs Sharon Bibi and all the rest say a lot of stuff in public just as American presidents do. What Iranian have done are b*tch slaps —we just have to give b*tch slaps back, not a full fledged ground war....and get Israel to join as a partner with soldiers....which they have never done....because they expect us to do their dirty work.
Netanyahu knows.
Israel gained virtually nothing from the second Gulf War. Iraq was no threat to Israel. All it did was fund terrorists attacking Israel. But so were US allies. Ariel Sharon and other Israelis privately warned President Bush not to invade Iraq, but stayed quiet publicly in order not to embarrass him. But your assumption that Israel pressured America into the war is false.
Your related theory that neoconservatives serve Israel would be hysterical lunacy, if so many people did not believe it. Neoconservatives support Israel, but they don't take orders from Jerusalem. The neoconservative plan to oppose Al Qaeda of democratizing the region would never help Israel. The Arabs and Muslim peoples hate Israel and want it destroyed. And a democratic Middle East would undermine support for Israel as the only democracy there. This isn't retrospect, I and others have said this for over a decade. But nationalist Jews are shut out of the public America debate except at a few conservative sites.
No one is advocating a ground war in Iran. That's a red herring and you know it. There are calls for air strikes to take out nuclear facilities, air defense, and perhaps strategic regime sites like the IRCG hq and training facilities. Iran has done little to America because they lacked capabilities to do more. When they and Sunni Arabs have nukes, then they can easily pass nukes onto third party terrorists to attack us with plausible deniability.
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