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To: caww
The same ones that got them into the mess they are in today.

Note that you went from denying that Ukraine had a democratically elected government to then declaring that they are the ones who "got them into the mess they are in." You do not operate rationally. But as to your new claim, it was not the Ukrainian rada that had the Berkut kidnap and torture people in the run up to the Maidan, and then later began murdering people with sniper rifles. This was the action of Yanukovich under the direction of the Russian GRU.

you cannot keep electing the same oligarchs

The same oligarchs supporting the Kremlin? Can you name any of them who are members of the Ukrainian parliament, by the way?

Further Ukraine Gov has nothing to say about what’s happening there now...it’s ALL being handled for them otherwise.

What does that mean? Are you saying that the Kremlin is "taking care of things" in East Ukraine?

Further it’s more than comical you referring to polls.....they’ll be lucky if they make it to an election at all.

It's not comical at all. Part of the Russian propaganda war is in painting the Ukrainian government as having no support, and that everybody wants Russia to invade. The will of the people points otherwise. As for "they'll be lucky if they make it to an election at all." You can improve that luck by ceasing your shilling for the Kremlin dictator who is doing everything he can to keep those elections from happening.

But then better for those sitting in office now to consolidate their positions.

More lies. It is the self-proclaimed mayor of the "People's Republic of Donetsk" who has declared that they will not accept any election. It is the Ukrainian rada that wants the elections.

43 posted on 04/24/2014 5:41:23 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I prefer not engaging with you as you take a liberal stance in how you respond by twisting what I say in order to support frame your position.

If I recall right, you have family members in Ukraine and so it’s easy to understand you’re desire would be to support the Ukraine’s Maiden group and those who desire to be under European rule. Unfortunately Ukraine has to choose both Russia and the Eu to work with and must remain neutral...otherwise the country will split as seen happening now.....So Until the current Gov. Leadership is gone the outcry against them will continue.....


48 posted on 04/25/2014 7:44:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Here's the current P.Minister ..Yats ....history...read for yourself...he's a millionare and part and parcel of those who robbed Ukraine for years...look closely...he controlled the money!

Sept. 2005 - Aug. 2006 – Minister of Economics of Ukraine. Sept. 2006 - March 2007 – First Deputy Head of the Presidential Secretariat of Ukraine - Presidential Representative in the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine, Presidential Envoy for control over the activity of the Security Service of Ukraine . Member of Council of National Bank of Ukraine. Mar. - Dec. 2007 – Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine. Member of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine. Since 2007 – People’s Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, 6th convocation. Dec. 2007 - Nov. 2008 – Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. Since Jan. 2009 – Member of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Health. 2010 – took fourth place at the Presidential Elections of Ukraine.

50 posted on 04/25/2014 9:51:29 PM PDT by caww
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