Posted on 04/22/2014 9:25:59 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
Over at NPR, Liz Holloran's latest piece on Sen. Rand Paul's efforts to loosen the Democratic Party's lock on black votes included some positive feedback from a prominent African-American leader:
"He's a different voice in the arena that we don't traditionally hear," says Lorraine Miller, acting head of the NAACP, who expects to invite Paul to speak at the organization's July national conference in Las Vegas.
"He's an engaging guy — that's why we want to talk to him," Miller says. Miller is not the only black leader who has been intrigued by Paul, whose father, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul, had three unsuccessful presidential runs and amassed a fervent Libertarian following.
Miller's predecessor, Benjamin Jealous, has previously hailed Paul's position on reforming drug and sentencing laws, which disproportionately affect African-American individuals and families
(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...
Your argument might have some merit if most states didn't already allow convicted felons the right to vote (Source).
When democrats go after the evangelical right to life vote we should go after the black vote.
Or
When democrats go after the NRA vote...
Before that time it’s a waste of money and time.
“Before that time it’s a waste of money and time.”
Not if you are losing elections.
The Dems are increasing their base with new Hispanic voters. The GOP will have to find new voters somewhere if it expects to ever win again.
The argument has merit regardless of the numbers, because felon voting is a cause of Rand Paul. as part of his war against conservatism.
Lulz. An argument not based in fact doesn't have much merit, so no.
The GOP can’t win by moving left with candidates like Romney and Rand Paul.
Social liberal Romney, won hugely with independents.
The fact is Rand Paul’s political position, which is felon voting.
“Rand Paul fights for felon voting rights”
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/19/politics/rand-paul-felon-voting/
Further, as someone else asked, should individuals who have paid their debt to society not be able to resume their rights? What about the wrongfully convicted?
I hadn’t realized the extent of the left’s/libertarian gains of felon voting, but it doesn’t change Rand Paul’s political agenda of calling for more felon voting.
My argument was about Rand Paul’s liberal politics, more than specific numbers.
It is like his coming out in support of gay marriage and against the GOP’s platform on social issues, which he wants the GOP to back off on.
“moving left”
The candidate you support stands to the left of Rand Paul on EVERY issue. That’s a fact. Amnesty, gay rights at the state level, you name it. He’s a good speaker though.
As Rand runs to head the federal government and appoint judges and the Supreme court and handle gay marriage in the military, federal employment and immigration, and share Obama’s foreign policy weakness.
Rand Paul: “I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues,” Paul advised. “The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”
FURP (both)
Others are taking it a step further:
You are reversing Ted Cruz’s position, while Rand Paul supports gay marriage and is campaigning to assist it, Ted Cruz is fighting it by trying to restore DOMA, to save what we can for the states who oppose it.
Ted Cruz is seeking ways to fight gay marriage, he supported DOMA, and is offering a new version to make up for what was taken, Rand Paul opposed DOMA, and is campaigning to advance gay marriage and social liberalism.
Your argument might have some merit if most states didn't already allow convicted felons the right to vote (Source).Abortion utterly destroys your argument.
New laws, wrongly convicted, Bundy, Tea Party.... is a straw-man argument.
Justice is not about a “debt” paid to society but rather punishment.
What “debt” is paid by sitting in a jail at the cost of the taxpayer?
I am not a fan like Paul is of fiends selling poison to youngsters.
And abortion has what to do with the fact that felons can already vote in most states?
The same authority of law on the books... and still Not Right (emphasis on “Not Right”, Right as opposed to Left).
Further to respond to another point you made in this thread, justice isn't just about punishment. Justice is much more complex, involving ideas of restitution, fairness, etc. Your view that justice is merely about punishment is quite narrow and misguided, as is your opinion that someone who supports restoring voting rights to citizens cannot be part of the right.
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