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To: Carry_Okie

Idiots. There is no way a convention of the States as governed by the pols we have today could come out anything but badly. It makes no sense to modify the Constitution when the government ignores the one we have.
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I agree. And I worry that in the event that a convention of the States ever comes about, the progressives and RINOs will seize effective control by stacking the participants and result in a “Runaway Convention” destroying the Constitution.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 2:54:48 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides; Carry_Okie
For those who say:
"... this is dangerous ..."
"... this is a terrible idea ..."
"... liberal States might send extremists as delegates ..."
"... other important things might be changed ..."
"... they will attack the Bill of Rights ..."
"... the right to free speech or right to bear arms could be taken away ..."
"... they might try to re-write the entire Constitution ..."
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An Article V Convention of States has no authority to re-write or even to amend the Constitution.
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An Article V Convention of States is simply a formal gathering of delegates from
at least 34 states (two-thirds), to discuss, debate, and "propose amendments" to the Constitution.
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The State resolutions currently circulating call for an Article V Convention of States using the same language.
"...for the purpose of proposing amendments to the Constitution which:
- Impose fiscal restraints on the Federal Government;
- Limit the power and jurisdiction of the Federal Government; and
- Limit the terms of office for federal officials and members of Congress."
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When/if the two-thirds threshold is met, each State would send delegates to gather in the convention.
The delegates would be selected by the various State legislatures.
The delegates would discuss, debate, and "propose amendments" to the Constitution.
The convention would operate on a one State = one vote system; with each State carrying the same weight.
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Any proposal not within the stated purpose of the Convention of States
(fiscal restraints; limits on power and jurisdiction; limits on terms of office)
would be unauthorized, rejected, and not approved by the Convention of States.
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Any proposal that emerged as a "proposed amendment" by the Convention of States
would require ratification by 38 states (three-fourths), the same as with any other proposed amendment.
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An Article V Convention of States has no authority to re-write or even to amend the Constitution.
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Read more at: http://www.conventionofstates.com
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19 posted on 04/21/2014 6:58:58 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: House Atreides
the progressives and RINOs will seize effective control by stacking the participants

How will they do that since a) each state gets 1 vote and b) the participants are chosen by the state legislatures and c) any amendments proposed must still be ratified by 38 states?

The worst-case scenario is that nothing comes of it at all!

29 posted on 04/22/2014 1:46:52 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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