[freeandfreezing]

I have a problem in general with the Federal Government ‘owning’ land.

I think part of the problem is how the federal government is trying to re-define "publicly owned lands" to "government owned lands".

This conceptual shift was evident during the partial government shutdown last year. In previous shut downs the government did not try to prevent citizens from walking on or visiting outdoor areas owned by the public. But this time they did.

From the viewpoint of our present administration, and their Democrat supporters, the land isn't collectively owned by the citizens of our nation, it is owned by the government itself, which they consider somehow separate from and above the citizens. That's the real problem.

[rodguy911]

Another problem is the attitudes of the federal/feral government. Instead of adopting an attitude of: hey its against the law to harm that endangered animal over there don't do it or you pay a fine or get in trouble.

Most people won't do it. You'd have to be really dumb to disobey that sort of rule. Instead they make everything out of bounds and restrict everyone's freedom putting animals over humans over and over. Its all BS and needs to end. Since when are we not allowed a higher position than animals,flowers, trees etc.?