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Ukraine Suspends Gas Payments to Russia
Townhall.com ^ | April 13, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 04/13/2014 9:46:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: WhiskeyX

Where Putin is concerned, Putinistas see no reason for International Law. He’s their hero.


21 posted on 04/13/2014 10:21:34 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: FreeReign

Crimea is part of Russia now. And Russia does not recognize the current leadership of Ukraine.


22 posted on 04/13/2014 10:22:18 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Liberal Logic: Obama doubles American’s energy costs = Good. Putin doubles Ukraine’s energy costs = Bad.

Tyrannical logic:

Make a deal with a country to use their(Ukraine's) facilities (Crimea).

Invade their country and their facilities and rip up the deal.

23 posted on 04/13/2014 10:22:29 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: BenLurkin
International laws — not so much.

Especially considering that international so called law has become so much like laws in the USA. Completely oppressive and out of control.
24 posted on 04/13/2014 10:22:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: WhiskeyX

Kiev signed contracts and it must honor its contracts. If it doesn’t want to do so, it can make alternative arrangements.

Every one else is paying market rate for Russian gas and you would be right it would be unjustified and exorbitant if the price being charged Ukraine was out of line with the prevailing price of the gas being supplied to Europe.

It isn’t.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 10:22:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin

I bet they pay (in one way or another).


26 posted on 04/13/2014 10:23:34 AM PDT by McGruff (I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb Bush pulled a Charlie Crist)
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To: WhiskeyX

Come and get me copper!

8^)


27 posted on 04/13/2014 10:26:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: McGruff

I suspect the EU will pay.

It better not be us.


28 posted on 04/13/2014 10:28:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Is there no Ukranian Chris Rock? He would have a field day about paying the utility bills with this.


29 posted on 04/13/2014 10:29:58 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: FreeReign

The current leadership in Kiev did not honor their agreement that was also signed by Yanukovych, Russia, Poland and Germany in late February.

http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/cae/servlet/contentblob/671350/publicationFile/190051/140221-UKR_Erklaerung.pdf

Final 6:45

Agreement on the Settlement of Crisis in Ukraine

Concerned with the tragic loss of life in Ukraine, seeking an immediate end
of bloodshed and determined to pave the way for a political resolution of the
crisis,
We, the signing parties, have agreed upon the following:

1. Within 48 hours of the signing of this agreement, a special law will be adopted,
signed and promulgated, which will restore the Constitution of 2004 including
amendments passed until now. Signatories declare their intention to create a
coalition and form a national unity government within 10 days thereafter.

2. Constitutional reform, balancing the powers of the President, the government
and parliament, will start immediately and be completed in September 2014.

3. Presidential elections will be held as soon as the new Constitution is adopted
but no later than December 2014. New electoral laws will be passed and a new
Central Election Commission will be formed on the basis of proportionality and in
accordance with the OSCE & Venice commission rules.

4. Investigation into recent acts of violence will be conducted under joint
monitoring from the authorities, the opposition and the Council of Europe.

2 / 3

5. The authorities will not impose a state of emergency. The authorities and the
opposition will refrain from the use of violence. The Parliament will adopt the
3
rd amnesty, covering the same range of illegal actions as the 17th February 2014
law.

Both parties will undertake serious efforts for the normalisation of life in the cities
and villages by withdrawing from administrative and public buildings and
unblocking streets, city parks and squares.

Illegal weapons should be handed over to the Ministry of Interior bodies within
24 hours of the special law, referred to in point 1 hereof, coming into force. After
the aforementioned period, all cases of illegal carrying and storage of weapons
will fall under the law of Ukraine. The forces of authorities and of the opposition
will step back from confrontational posture. The Government will use law
enforcement forces exclusively for the physical protection of public buildings.

6. The Foreign Ministers of France, Germany, Poland and the Special
Representative of the President of the Russian Federation call for an immediate
end to all violence and confrontation.

Kyiv, 21 February 2014 3 / 3

Signatories:
President of Ukraine: For the Opposition:

Viktor Yanukovych Vitaliy Klichko, UDAR

Oleh Tyahnibok, Svoboda

Arsenij Yatseniuk, Batkivshchyna

Witnessed by:
For the EU: For the Russian Federation
Poland Germany France

Radoslaw Sikorski Frank-Walter Steinmeier Laurent Fabius Vladimir Lukin
Foreign Minister Foreign Minister Foreign Minister Special Envoy


30 posted on 04/13/2014 10:30:02 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: tcrlaf
The Right Sector/Svoboda keep handing Russia pretexts for action

The world community should demand an election so Ukranians can vote these inept thugs out of power. Would any of this have happened if they didn't decree that Russian was no longer an official language?

I'm trying to apply logic. It isn't surprising that these eastern Ukranian cities and towns are having well-planned, well-armed coordinated protests. A majority of the military stationed in Crimea chose to leave the Ukranian forces and stay in Crimea. Those who stayed are trained military, they know the area, they have weapons (such as they are) left by Ukraine and probably their own. Of course they can run a counter-insurgency.

The Kiev thugs, what are they trying to prove? I'd think they'd be better off having a popular election while there's anyone at all left who supports them. I'd think if they'd done that after Crimea left they would've had a good chance of winning, since all of those Russians in Crimea wouldn't be voting.

This whole thing is amazing. The only reasonable conclusion is that those who write the globalist agenda want a war over Ukraine, or at the very least want a rebirth of Nazism there.

31 posted on 04/13/2014 10:31:46 AM PDT by grania
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To: FreeReign

France was also a signatory to the deal between the Ukrainian leadership and opposition at the time, not just Germany, Poland and Russia.


32 posted on 04/13/2014 10:33:50 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: dfwgator
So now the US taxpayer gets stuck with the bill.

Kerry and the EU feel that bailing out Ukraine is the answer to everything. And Putin doesn't care who pays off Ukraine's gas arrears. So of course, we will be stuck with the bailout bill. Along with Germany.
33 posted on 04/13/2014 10:38:22 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Maybe I should just write my check directly to Putin, and cut out the middle man.


34 posted on 04/13/2014 10:39:10 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek
"I suspect the EU will pay. It better not be us."

Wouldn't bet on it. It fits so well with Obama's plan to impoverish the US.

35 posted on 04/13/2014 10:46:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: grania

“The Kiev thugs, what are they trying to prove?”

It says a LOT that they couldn’t depend on local police and Special forces Units, and had to bring in the “National Guard” of 350 Right-Sector thugs, and Special Forces from Western Ukraine, to try and put this down, in one small city.

That people are now getting killed shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. This will now spiral out of control, giving Russia any pretext they need to act, if they choose to.

The idiots running the show in Kiev obviously aren’t very smart. All they had to do was allow referendums. Despite the propaganda, did they think they would lose an open election?Instead, they choose the violent route.


36 posted on 04/13/2014 10:47:06 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: jimbo123
1. Within 48 hours of the signing of this agreement, a special law will be adopted, signed and promulgated, which will restore the Constitution of 2004 including amendments passed until now. Signatories declare their intention to create a coalition and form a national unity government within 10 days thereafter.

The MP's in the Rada passed the law.

Yanukovich never signed it!!

And of course regardless it wouldn't excuse Russia for invading Ukraine and ripping up their gas deal.

37 posted on 04/13/2014 10:51:38 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Kaslin

and so, the battle for resources continues...little difference today, as in 1940 when Japan was forced to run blockades to have oil...hence Pearl Harbor...


38 posted on 04/13/2014 10:52:44 AM PDT by B212
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39 posted on 04/13/2014 10:53:46 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jimbo123

“Poland pays $500/tcm to Gazprom. Why should Ukraine pay $268/tcm?”

1. Because that was the amount in the long-term contract.

2. The former price just a few years ago was less than $200, but Russia has been raising the rates to extortionist levels in later negotiations because it has been useful in destablizing the economies and governments in Europe.

3. Poland is currently willing to temporarily pay more only because it has not yet fully succeeded in replacing the Russian volumes of natural gas. Poland has reduced its volumes from 90% of its natural gas supplies to 60%. Poland is paying more to import LNG from Qatar in order to negotiate for better prices from Russia until such time as PAoland can despense with Russian supplies altogether, if need be in the event of further strained relations or war.

4. Ukraine cannot afford the increase in price, which is precisely why Russia has tripled the prices to Poland, the Ukraine, and other nations in the last few years. Russia knew the customers would face mcuh higher replacement costs for a number of years before anyone could replace the Russian supplies with alternative supplies at more normal market prices.

5. Russia is now engaged in a war of aggression against the Ukraine and is violating Ukrainian territorial integrity, which gives the Ukraine the natural legal authority to void or suspend all prior contracts and seize all Russian assets, including the accounts receivable owed by the Ukraine to Russia, as war reparations.


40 posted on 04/13/2014 10:54:25 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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