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Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Townhall.com ^ | April 12, 2014 | Steve Deace

Posted on 04/12/2014 12:10:32 PM PDT by Kaslin

“Premise” is a word many Americans are not familiar with, and neither do they use it in their everyday speech. However, the premise is one of the most powerful weapons in political warfare. Master the art of the premise, and you will master your opponent.

A premise is the assumption of an argument that is meant to justify the conclusion the one making the argument is hoping you’ll come to. If one fails to establish the premise to his argument, one almost always fails to convince others of his conclusion. On the other hand, if one establishes a premise one will more than likely get others to agree with his conclusion.

For example, if the premise of the argument is over “reproductive choice” and not “the sanctity of human life,” then the conclusion will come down on the side of the premise accepted. For too long we have argued with the Left over the conclusion (e.g. big government vs. small government) when we should be arguing the premise (e.g. what’s legal for the government to do vs. what’s illegal for the government to do).

All too often we accept the premise of the Left’s argument on virtually every issue, which allows them to frame the political battlefield. Any good general will attempt to shape the battlefield in a manner that gives his soldiers the best chance at victory, and we should do the same in the culture war as well.

Could you imagine the possibilities if we made the Left defend the Constitutionality (see that as legality) of all their statist schemes, and if our Republican politicians asked questions that rejected their premise from the outset?

I get asked questions all the time from the Left’s perspective, and I never accept their premise. For example, in 2011 I did an interview on Dutch National Television. One of the questions was whether those who practice homosexuality should be allowed to serve openly in the military.

“I believe all men and women that are physically qualified and able to conform to the Uniformed Code of Military Justice ought to be able to serve their country,” I replied.

“But what about gays and lesbians,” the Dutch host asked.

“I’m sorry, maybe you didn’t hear me,” I replied. “I believe all men and women that are physically qualified and able to conform to the Uniformed Code of Military Justice ought to be able to serve their country.”

Now he looked confused. “So, is that a yes or a no?”

“There are only two types of people,” I told him. “Men and women.”

He had nowhere to go after that because I totally shut his premise down by rejecting it from the outset. From there I was on offense throughout the rest of the interview.

Recently I was asked by a newspaper reporter to comment on a story he was working on regarding the perception conservatives have a monopoly on the American flag and patriotism. The story centered on a liberal activist who was sewing into an American flag an anti-marriage/pro-immorality speech by Hillary Clinton as a protest against this perceived bias.

“Do you think the American flag is seen as a conservative symbol,” he asked.

The American flag is a symbol of the virtues and values the generation that devised it and died for it intended it to be, which they enshrined for future generations in the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution,” I replied. “Those virtues and values should defy labels except American. Unfortunately, as we cascade over the post-modern cliff, all such absolutes are now considered negotiable.”

“Do you think it’s appropriate to incorporate the flag into progressive/liberal messages like a pro-gay marriage art project,” he followed up.

“I think our society is better off when we conform our beliefs to the virtues and value that define the American flag, rather than conforming what the flag stands for to suit our own personal whims, desires, and agendas,” I answered.

“What’s your response to the claim that conservatives have an unfair monopoly on the flag,” he asked for his final question.

“It’s clear from their own writings and actions what values and virtues our Founders intended the flag to stand for: there is a God, our rights come from Him, and the purpose of government is to protect those God-given rights,” I responded. “That vision should transcend our current petty political labeling, and if your particular agenda doesn’t reconcile with that uniquely American vision the problem is you, not the vision.”

Nowhere in this dialogue did I accept the premise of the questioning, which was that the country is so divided that we even have multiple interpretations of traditional Americana. Nothing could be further from the truth, for we do not get to interpret the meanings of such things when the authors themselves left such a clear record of what they meant.

That is common Leftist/Marxist tactic known as Social Reconstructionism, and if I accept the premise of these questions I am accepting the validity of that pagan and un-American philosophy, which means we never arrive at the truth and just keep arguing our own perspectives.

If the Leftists want to make the case what they believe is in line with the founding vision of these United States, then by all means go back into the historical record and make that case. Except they won’t and they can’t. There’s a simple reason why the Left doesn’t pay as much homage to the founding of this country as we do, and it’s because most of what they believe is contrary to it, which is why they’ve had to take over the schools and scrub that history from the textbooks. Even one of the Left’s favorite Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, was so opposed to what most Leftists believe they’d peg him with their favorite word for conservatives—“extreme.”

Proving those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, not once but twice during the 2012 presidential debates Mitt Romney failed to confront President Obama on his version of the events that led to four dead Americans at the Benghazi terror attacks. Romney allowed Obama’s false premise to be asserted on the biggest stage of the campaign, thus allowing what should’ve been an issue that toppled the Obama presidency to become a strength prior to voters heading to the polls. It wasn’t until after the election in Congressional hearings featuring several Benghazi whistle-blowers -- all of whom who worked for Obama -- that the president’s account proved to be false. By then it was too late, and those four dead Americans and their families still haven’t received justice.

One of the reasons we see so many Republicans accepting the premise of the Left’s argument is because they don’t possess a solid worldview. Thus, most Republicans end up being defined by what they’re against and not what they’re for. Without a premise they’re just playing defense. Most Republicans don’t know what they’re for beyond they’re for beating Democrats.

The Left is always advancing their premise, and too many Republicans don’t have one, which means unless “we the people” step in we end up allowing Leftists to frame the argument. We can step in when it comes to voting, but at some point we need to actually elect politicians who can advance our premise in the arena of public policy. Otherwise we’ll continue going “forward” over the cliff the Left has us headed towards.

The only debate will be how fast over that cliff we go.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: absolutetruth; americanflag; conservatives; debate; debates; falsepremises; hegeliandialectic; liberals
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To: Kaslin

Bad premises, followed with perfect logic, yield bad conclusions.


21 posted on 04/12/2014 2:28:17 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kaslin

Especially the premise that they’re “compassionate” and “tolerant.”


22 posted on 04/12/2014 2:28:57 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: abb

-— Years ago, Allan Keyes told the audience at a function I was attending this: “You’ll never win a argument you don’t make.” -—

Excellent.

I ran for school committee in a liberal Marxichusetts town, just to get even for the education committed against me. I ran on a school choice platform because I see it as the only practical way to reform tax-funded schooling.

I must have asked the question, “why do my opponents oppose parents choosing their own schools?”

Of course, it’s an impossible question to answer, and none ever did. It sure beat talking about the Spanish immersion program.


23 posted on 04/12/2014 2:31:18 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: TBP

And the latest unicorn and candy kisses premise, “they cross the border illegally out of love”.


24 posted on 04/12/2014 2:32:07 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Kaslin

that should be lesson #1 but all too often gope candidates fail at this


25 posted on 04/12/2014 2:40:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: TBP

The old, “Have you quit beating your wife? Yes, or no?”


26 posted on 04/12/2014 2:44:08 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Kaslin

Sometimes they (the liberals) get the premise right and the solution wrong and work this scenario in their favor as well. People who don’t bother to think for themselves hear the correct premise with a terrible solution and assume since the premise is correct the solution is correct as well.

Examples: the problem: promiscuous behavior in the young has increased; solution - more abortion, more birth control, less regulation of pornography, movie standards, etc.

the problem: unemployment and a welfare society with no work ethic - the solution: more government money handed out to enable the behaviors

There are other examples out there; this odious set up by the left is another example of how they are winning in the idea realm.


27 posted on 04/12/2014 2:48:27 PM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
"So if Obama's generals decide that gays and trannies "conform" to their version of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice then Mr. Deace is OK with that?

Do you think in your maddest feverdreams that the LGBT crowd would conform to normal behavior, instead they are demanding that all others conform to their's.

28 posted on 04/12/2014 2:49:32 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Avid Coug
The old, “Have you quit beating your wife? Yes, or no?”

Response: "Have you?"

29 posted on 04/12/2014 2:57:25 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: fella
This is how Part (a) of Section 925 of the UCMJ used to read:

Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

This is how it reads now:

Forcible Sodomy.— Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex by force or without the consent of the other person is guilty of forcible sodomy and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Gays don't have to conform and change their behavior if Obama's generals change the code.

30 posted on 04/12/2014 3:04:00 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: IronJack

Another trap is being asked how you feel about a group like gay people; the premise is that you must hold an opinion about people you’ve never met based upon a single trait. How about “I reserve my judgment to only those people I know or whom I know about. My judgment is grounded on more than a single trait, like sexual behavior or skin pigmentation, but is founded on character traits, like loyalty, compassion, fidelity and industry.” You don’t have to generalize about any random group that share a single trait. In fact, if you do, that’s bigotry.


31 posted on 04/12/2014 3:05:40 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

For instance, you’ll often hear gun-grabbers say something like: “you don’t need a gun like that for hunting”.

Would saying “I don’t recognize your right to decide what I need and don’t need” work? That’s usually my response when someone talks about my needs.


32 posted on 04/12/2014 4:03:40 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Kaslin

Examine your premises!


33 posted on 04/12/2014 4:13:03 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: RWB Patriot

Another good reply: “Well then, I guess its a good thing I don’t care what you think.”


34 posted on 04/12/2014 4:15:12 PM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: Kaslin

“Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument”

I decline to accept the premise of this argument.


35 posted on 04/12/2014 4:16:40 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the and breadth of "ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

I decline to decline to accept your declination of his argument.


36 posted on 04/12/2014 4:20:18 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Are we in “violent agreement” as Jerry B. Harvey might say?


37 posted on 04/12/2014 4:39:20 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the and breadth of "ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

That is an issue... the UCMJ is something that CAN be politically remolded. Nonetheless, it’s an illustration of not letting someone reframe your thoughts for you to the ill.


38 posted on 04/12/2014 4:42:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The double, triple, quadruple negatives get dizzying.


39 posted on 04/12/2014 4:42:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: RWB Patriot

At the least it highlights what they are trying to do; and it’s seldom something actually sensible like “You don’t need a hundred hydrogen bombs in your garage.”


40 posted on 04/12/2014 4:44:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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