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To: over3Owithabrain

Simply not true that Ruth had major league home runs that were not accounted for and had over 800. Completely false


It is ABSOLUTELY true. Before his home run hitting became a phenomenon nobody was even keeping count of HRs. They weren’t counted in box scores and weren’t being reported in any meaningful way. They were simply lost to history. He hit MANY that were not accounted for, and the number is easily in the range of 800.


59 posted on 04/10/2014 9:06:08 AM PDT by RightInJersey
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To: RightInJersey

You’re wrong. Completely. You keep repeating an old wives tale. You have no sourcing because there isn’t any. Trust me on this. Ruth does not have 90+ unaccounted for Major League home runs


62 posted on 04/18/2014 12:53:22 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: RightInJersey
It is ABSOLUTELY true. Before [Ruth's] home run hitting became a phenomenon nobody was even keeping count of HRs. They weren’t counted in box scores and weren’t being reported in any meaningful way. They were simply lost to history. He hit MANY that were not accounted for, and the number is easily in the range of 800.

I'm sorry, but that's absolutely untrue.

Baseball has always been a meticulous record-keeper...and has gotten moreso. Project Scoresheet is in the process of reviewing scoresheets and news accounts of every major league game ever played, attempting to fill in what few holes there were in the statistics. For example, while most of today's stats have been in place since WW II, caught stealing and sac flies weren't recorded until the late thirties and late forties, respectively.

But they ALWAYS kept track of HRs.

You may be conflating Ruth's "missing HRs" with rule changes as to what constituted a HR. Nowadays, a fly ball that curls around the foul pole -- clearing the fence in fair territory, yet landing in foul territory -- is considered a HR. But, in Ruth's day, it was not. There was no foul pole -- and where the ball landed determined whether it was fair or foul.

It is thought that Ruth may have hit at least 80 such balls -- ones that would be HRs today, but were foul in his time. That would get you to around the 800 number you're citing.

However, there is a flip side to the story. What we now consider to be a "ground-rule double", a ball that bounces into the stands, was recorded as a HR in Ruth's day. And, near as can be determined, something like 70-80 of his HR were of this variety.

Accordingly, those 714 home runs next to George Herman Ruth's name in the record book is a precise count of the HR he actually hit -- under the scoring rules then in force.

63 posted on 04/18/2014 1:17:56 AM PDT by okie01
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