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To: MortMan
>>Perfect example of thinking inside the box.<<

I see. For you, regulations and standards are simply suggestions. Good luck with that point of view.

No, but you limited your assessment of the situation to existing large scale training programs. What in the standards and regulations prevent a high intensity physical training program for women who desire a career path calling for high level physical abilities? One of the strengths of the military is their ability to create effective high intensity training designed to produce targeted results in a minimum amount of time. Identifying highly motivated women willing to push themselves to the limits to achieve previously unreached levels of performance should be a benefit to the service unless you think it would just create a bunch of uppity broads getting in the way of the guys.

81 posted on 04/10/2014 6:27:16 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51

There should be no 2 standards. IF a woman wants equal treatment, then they should be able to preform equally.

They wanted into combat, then all 18 year old girls should come under the MANDATORY DRAFT sign UP for Males.

I’m waiting for a 18 year old male to challenge this bias MANDATORY DRAFT Issue.

IF YOU WANT EQUAL, YOU MUST PERFORM EQUAL! Can’t take the equal training don’t go for those jobs that require it.

Israeli women seem to cope with equal training, guess American women are Whuzzes.


82 posted on 04/10/2014 6:45:39 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: CMAC51
...willing to push themselves...

Again, you are missing the forest for the trees. Any training program is required to be under the auspices of specific standards. These highly motivated women are responsible to prepare themselves to meet the higher standards embedded in follow-on training.

To make it a specific training regimen administered by the Corps is essentially a remedial program. To make a program specifically aimed at women further puts highly motivated males at a disadvantage.

Again, it is the trainee's responsibility to be prepared to meet the entrance standards for training they desire. Once there, they will be trained to meet the graduation criteria.

You ask what in the regulations and standards prevents the establishment of such a pre-training regimen? Nothing. But regulations similarly do not allow such an official pre-training program, and setting it up for women alone would actually be discriminatory against the individuals who are excluded.

Now, please tell me why the Corps should be held responsible for pre-training women to meet the known standards for the infantry officer's course, while men are expected to train themselves to be prepared to surpass the entrance criteria.

I'm disappointed that you feel the need to accuse me of sexism. It belies the weakness of your argument. It also underscores the idea that you do not believe that women can train themselves to such a high physical standard - no matter that men are required to do so in order to achieve the same desired results. That aspect of your position is utterly pathetic.

83 posted on 04/10/2014 8:00:25 AM PDT by MortMan (Fired the Fox - Anyone who denies religious liberty in favor of "fairness" is a fascist.)
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