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To: Girlene
Everything you wrote is exactly the same as BO and this administration in how it operates.....as does the EU/NATO. If a nations leaders do not play in their ball-park, according to their agenda, then they take them out via revolutions and various other means. Egypt, though they failed there, Libya, Syria are all prime examples....and Russia of course.

Russia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, are all nation states who ‘refuse’ to go along with the Eu/Nato/Us Globalist Agenda to set up World Governance. When they don't comply under “other” pressures, such as human rights, environmental issues and the like...then they will use the measures we see playing out now in Ukraine.

When you rise above the people of the nations, and their sincere desires for freedom, to the level of actual powers who are operating in all nations, on the ground, with their politicians they can and do manipulate, then you can see the whole picture.

If you only observe what the people are saying you will miss entirely the agenda's and the push from those who are outside the nations creating the chaos for their own advantage.

There is a very real strategic war going on..and it's being fought by proxy, and this orchestrated, funded and devised by those our mainstream news will not or cannot report of.

What you are failing perhaps to see is Russia is being opposed because Putin will not go along to play in their court...why do you think Brics was formed? And the Eurasia group? Not to mention China's moves on our country and throughout the world, who also oppose the Eu/Nato/US agenda.

There are land grabs going on all over, for the resources each nation can bring to the table of those who stand to gain by doing so...and it's not about the welfare of the people. Have you not questioned why Germany is reluctant to stand with the EU....Merkle's tired of playing the role of "savior" economically to the EU's failures....or why Britain's opposing the EU and the tension in their country for that.

The world IS at war, but it's all about economics, land and resources...."Joining" one or another of their "clubs" as a nation pits you immediately against who they are opposing.

BTW are you aware that Henry Kissinger and Condoleeza Rice, are among key individuals in the US who are acting in tandem with the IMF, the Kiev government, in consultation with the White House, and the US Congress concernign Ukraine?

47 posted on 04/07/2014 9:46:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

I have one observation. For about the last two decades, almost every single time our government has had to explain a world event to us, It has been a baldfaced lie.
The US media is 99% compliant in supporting these lies.

Only the existence of the internet, and sites like FR have allowed us to know how much we are lied to.
It is almost the -only- consistent thing about our government.

And now, they are “telling” us what is occurring in Ukraine.

The only sane thing is to understand that the precise opposite is probably true, and that conservatives are being cynically played by appealing to their Cold War service patriotism.


51 posted on 04/07/2014 10:02:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: caww; Girlene
The world IS at war, but it's all about economics, land and resources

Don't know why you're wasting your time explaining the obvious. If they don't understand, then they're hopelessly ignorant. On the other hand, perhaps they do understand perfectly well and believe they're serving a useful purpose for their masters.

Btw, it's always been about economics, land & resources: - Mexican-American war
- Spanish-American war
- WWI
- WWII

As I'm sure you know, the Japanese attacked Pearl & Singapore the same day in an effort to break the US oil embargo by capturing SE Asian oil fields.

Scuttlebutt suggests the line was drawn in Syria ie nukes were put on the table. The Ukraine affair just doubled down on that threat. Not sure what the US/NATO thinks it can accomplish. At this point, it looks kind of like a giant cluster with no way out.

63 posted on 04/07/2014 10:44:27 PM PDT by semantic
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To: caww

Seizing another nation’s territory has no moral equivalency with a politician lying.


82 posted on 04/08/2014 4:52:40 AM PDT by Justa
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