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East Moapa Valley, Mormon Mesa Restricted By BLM
Moapa Valley Progress ^ | April4, 2014 | VERNON ROBISON

Posted on 04/07/2014 2:00:31 PM PDT by RicocheT

Federal authorities moved last week to restrict access to a huge swath of federal land in northeast Clark County as they prepare to round up what they are calling “trespass cattle” in the region.

The Bureau of Land Management’s temporary closure of roughly 288,000 acres took effect on Thursday, March 27. The restricted land takes in all of the Mormon Mesa south of I-15 and includes everything on the eastern bench of the lower Moapa Valley, directly east of Logandale and Overton.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: blm; cattlegrazing; navada
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We are from the government and here to help you. The battle against ranchers and cattle grazing v, BLM and the desert tortoise continues.

Cliven Bundy's son, Dave, was arrested while standing along a state hywy 4/8/14 for filming the BLM rounding up cattle. “I counted, they had 11 vehicles all with at least two agents in each one, maybe more,” he said. “They also had four snipers on the hill above us all trained on us. We were doing nothing besides filming the area.”

http://mvprogress.com/2014/04/06/one-of-bundy%E2%80%99s-sons-arrested-in-roundup-incident/

1 posted on 04/07/2014 2:00:31 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: RicocheT

What, are the going to introduce Moose (shells)?


2 posted on 04/07/2014 2:10:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RicocheT

HOW DOESN’T THE 1ST AMENDMENT RULE OVER THE WHOLE AREA?


3 posted on 04/07/2014 2:13:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RicocheT

He hasn’t paid grazing fees for years yet continued to graze. I would say action is long overdue.

We can argue about whether grazing fees are just or not but it has been a long standing order of business for federal lands. THe fees are relatively small. I think the tortoise issue is bogus. There is always some bug, reptile or whatever that ONLY LIVES here BS.

Hopefully cool heads prevail and it can be settled.


4 posted on 04/07/2014 2:15:43 PM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: RicocheT

http://www.infowars.com/federal-snipers-train-guns-on-family-for-filming-cattle/


5 posted on 04/07/2014 2:16:07 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SolidRedState

His family has been there way before the BLM was.


6 posted on 04/07/2014 2:16:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Paladin2

The govt won’t re-introduce anything. They want to cut off the water rights to the cattle ranchers on leased land. They want the cattle off so mother earth can heal itself of all the cow farts.

IMO the ultimate goal of the evil Agenda 21 empire currently holding its boot on our throats is to get rid of as much meat as possible and organic vegetables. They want to force all of us proletariat to eat very little meat and buy all of our food in the grocery stores where we will get the big agra GMO food and the new improved chicken from China. The govt wants to control our means to acquire food. Read the Food Safety Act sometime and then thank your RINO senators and reps who voted it in. Its actually frightening.

Then go out and buy a plot of land somewhere so you can grow your own food.


7 posted on 04/07/2014 2:18:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
" The govt wants to control our means to acquire food."

Wickard

8 posted on 04/07/2014 2:24:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

“HOW DOESN’T THE 1ST AMENDMENT RULE OVER THE WHOLE AREA?”

I see more and more of these “free speech zones”. We must disarm the government.


9 posted on 04/07/2014 2:28:24 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Paladin2

” The govt wants to control our means to acquire food.”

That too. The Agenda 21 goal is what 500,000 people worldwide? They need to get the US down to about 60 mil?


10 posted on 04/07/2014 2:29:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DBrow

After the Fed Gov’t “performance” during the “last “shutdown”, it’s clear that most of the Federal Land need to be immediately transferred to the respective States and/or sold off to reduce the US Debt.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 2:35:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"get the US down to about 60 mil?"

Just 'zactly what tax slave group is going to pay off the Debt?

12 posted on 04/07/2014 2:37:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RicocheT

I wonder if any video is being posted somewhere, even from the little plot of the remaining USA ‘given’ as a “free speech zone”, or is anybody filming being arrested as was the family member?


13 posted on 04/07/2014 2:38:38 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Jack Hydrazine

His family has been there way before the BLM was.

************

So were the Indians. Washington, like honeybadger, doesn’t give a ‘F’. It takes what it wants.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 2:47:56 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Carthego delenda est

I think ya’ll are getting it confused with ...
Speech Free Zones. Hush now.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 2:51:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RicocheT
Bundy quit paying his grazing fees 20 years ago. He insists that the land is part of his ranch, but he has no legal title to it and was previously paying grazing fees.

In 1998, he was ordered by the courts to remove his cattle from this land, four years after he quit paying grazing fees.

On July 9th, 2012, Nevada District Judge Lloyd D. George ordered Bundy to remove his cattle from BLM and National Park System lands in the Gold Butte and Overton Arm areas of southern Nevada. He was given 45 days to comply with the order or face seizure of his livestock by the BLM. The order says that the BLM was entitled to protect the lands from trespass and all further trespass by Bundy’s cattle and can seize them as long as he is given proper notice.

Here is the order.

16 posted on 04/07/2014 2:56:28 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Scoutmaster

Excuse me. The order was issued in 2013.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 2:57:18 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Scoutmaster
"Bundy has insisted that he does not need to recognize federal government jurisdiction on land that his family has used, improved and ranched since 1877. Though he recognizes that he doesn’t own the land, Bundy says that it should be under the jurisdiction of the state of Nevada and that it belongs to the people of Clark County. He has repeatedly said that he will now “do whatever it takes” to protect his property rights on the land.

Federal officials have ordered Bundy to remove his livestock from a grazing allotment that was retired back in 1999 out of concern for the federally-protected desert tortoise.

To strengthen their case, the feds say that Bundy stopped paying his federal grazing fees back in 1993. But Bundy responds that he stopped paying the fees because he realized that they were being used to finance an agenda to drive him and his cattle off of his ancestral allotment. Lawsuits have been ongoing back and forth in the federal courts for more than two decades now, ordering Bundy to remove his cattle. But throughout all of that, the cattle have nevertheless remained on the land.

In 2012, the BLM hired a contract cowboy to remove the livestock. But the effort was quickly pulled back at the last minute; in part because of a fear of a violent encounter. At that time, federal officials vowed they would return to the courts to strengthen their position. Last fall, a series of federal court orders did just that. The orders required Bundy to remove his cattle within 45 days. If he did not, the federal agencies were authorized to seize any cattle left on the land and Bundy was expressly forbidden to interfere."

Source.

The language in the transfer of title from the State of Nevada to the BLM makes it clear that neither the State of Nevada nor Clark County has title to these lands, contrary to what Mr. Bundy may claim.

18 posted on 04/07/2014 3:03:48 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
His family has been there way before the BLM was.

Not very likely. The BLM, or rather the various agencies it is descended from, go back to before the Constitution.

The federal government has held title to this land since it was acquired by the USA via the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo in 1848.

Unless the gentleman can provide some documentation of his title to it. We don't generally allow people to take over a few hundred thousand acres of land simply by claiming ownership.

19 posted on 04/07/2014 3:09:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The BLM was created in 1946. His family goes back at least three generations on that property.


20 posted on 04/07/2014 3:28:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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