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To: Yollopoliuhqui

>> We need to learn how to give every citizen a case of Asperger’s

Boy howdy, I called that one.

>> I have interacted with and understood as many humans as you or any other career cynic on this planet.

No, you haven’t.

I used to be a naïve little thing like you, believing everybody could work everything out if they just talked like adults to one another.

You know, like the Canadian career academic Marshall McLuhan.

30 years in the workforce, with the last 5 of it being underemployed with reality beating me in the face, slowly made me realize that I had indeed been a naïve fool. Humans are nasty creatures who, if not checked by any higher authority, will take every opportunity to dehumanize, demoralize, and dominate their fellow members of the species.

McLuhan, much like our current President, never had a real job. Great work, if you can get it. One’s pragmatism tends to suffer in ivory towers, though. It does, however, leave one free to propose all sorts of hogwash that would never work in real life. Like Marxism, or Randian utopias where radical individualism turns all basement dwellers into Der Ubermenchen, or what have you.

>> technophobes of all stripes.

LOL! I’m a Luddite-Amish computer programmer & technician!

>> You simply need to see how much worse it could have been without the Nikola Teslas or DaVincis or hard working farmers or soccer moms of the world.

People with real jobs! Huzzah! Amazing that you actually admire some people with real jobs.

I love Tesla and Leonardo DaVinci, by the way. Absolute geniuses. They had their mistakes, of course, but they were very far-thinking men. Even before the Internet could grab them and assimilate them Akira-style.

BY THE WAY,

The elimination of Islam is not a Christian goal per se. Muslims, unlike many New Atheists these days, believe that there was a historical Jesus.

There IS a group in America, though, that wants to eliminate Abrahamic religion in general; Christianity and Islam in particular. That group right now is using Islam (as well as many other growing social movements) as a grinding stone to chip away at Christianity, because Christianity is their biggest threat.

It’s this group’s mantras that you seem to be parroting.

The Progressive elite. Or as I like to call them, Gramscian Marxists.


54 posted on 04/06/2014 9:45:19 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: angryoldfatman

>> We need to learn how to give every citizen a case of Asperger’s

>Boy howdy, I called that one.

LOL! So what’s your problem with being smart?

> I have interacted with and understood as many humans as you or any other career cynic on this planet.

>>No, you haven’t.

Have so. I’ve had more run ins with sociopaths, bad tempered Napoleons, scheeming bitches, welchers and back stabbing psychic vampires in my life than you have in a jute mill sack full of your worst nightmares.

>I used to be a naïve little thing like you, believing everybody could work everything out if they just talked like adults to one another.

I ain’t buying into your grizzled, battle scarred, fox hole weary script. You have suffered defeat and you are letting that defeat move your mouth.

>You know, like the Canadian career academic Marshall McLuhan.

Neither Canadian nor career nor academic are cause for a wave off on my boat. If you fear being swamped, break out the caulking iron, shred that surrender flag into usable bits and get to it.

>30 years in the workforce, with the last 5 of it being underemployed with reality beating me in the face, slowly made me realize that I had indeed been a naïve fool. Humans are nasty creatures who, if not checked by any higher authority, will take every opportunity to dehumanize, demoralize, and dominate their fellow members of the species.

Workplace politics, what else is new. Yah, it isn’t easy for men of integrity having idiots get promoted and tell you your job and it ain’t that easy swapping out jobs either. So you better get smart in a way that gives Patton goose bumps.

>McLuhan, much like our current President, never had a real job. Great work, if you can get it. One’s pragmatism tends to suffer in ivory towers, though. It does, however, leave one free to propose all sorts of hogwash that would never work in real life. Like Marxism, or Randian utopias where radical individualism turns all basement dwellers into Der Ubermenchen, or what have you.

No argument here. But occasionally grant funded academia will field an original thinker. They can’t all be Eric Hoffer. Some of what McLuhan talks about is shite, no question, but he’s got some good ideas in there. You need to get off that all or nothing, on/off switch and figure out that the game often occurs on a 49%-51% Thunder Dome.

>> technophobes of all stripes.

>LOL! I’m a Luddite-Amish computer programmer & technician!

I’m a flat track Harley racer with a keyboard zip tied to the handlebars myself. Nice to meet you.

>> You simply need to see how much worse it could have been without the Nikola Teslas or DaVincis or hard working farmers or soccer moms of the world.

>People with real jobs! Huzzah! Amazing that you actually admire some people with real jobs.

Nah, I admire people with real brains.

>I love Tesla and Leonardo DaVinci, by the way. Absolute geniuses. They had their mistakes, of course, but they were very far-thinking men. Even before the Internet could grab them and assimilate them Akira-style.

What does it take to be far thinking? How can that be judged without letting preconditions or preconceptions tell us whose mind is valuable and whose isn’t, without letting trigger phrases set off our hot button Avoid! panels?

BY THE WAY,

>The elimination of Islam is not a Christian goal per se. Muslims, unlike many New Atheists these days, believe that there was a historical Jesus.

True, Abrahamic religions, yadda yadda. But they were all formed in an era of brahminic caste social hierarchies and served those theocratic hierarchies. Those hierarchies are now officially obsolete. Beyond that delusionaly idealistic (ringing a bell?) afterlife claptrap, religions have no patent on ethical behavior norms.

>There IS a group in America, though, that wants to eliminate Abrahamic religion in general; Christianity and Islam in particular. That group right now is using Islam (as well as many other growing social movements) as a grinding stone to chip away at Christianity, because Christianity is their biggest threat.

I’m not sure we’ll find many remnants of the Vandals or Alemanni wishing revenge upon the Roman Empire, since the Roman Empire no longer exists, along with said Vandals and Alemanni. But I’m afraid that victims of the Crusades, or European religious persecutions or indigenous tribesmen still bear a bit of a grudge against the Petrine oligarchs on Vatican Hill. I’m a bit amazed that latter day Huguenots are not screaming for the blood of the Bishop of Rome.

>It’s this group’s mantras that you seem to be parroting.

The only mantra I parrot, and I parrot it from my muse, Calliope, is “Get smarter faster”.

>The Progressive elite. Or as I like to call them, Gramscian Marxists.

Now you are walking your tracers up to the brain of the beast. Conservatives got their butts snookered by Gramscii and his students. I hear nothing but a chronic wail on FR about liberal control of the media, academia, govt bureaucracy, and culture in general, bleeding into the churches, law enforcement, the courts, ethics, the whole enchilada.

Yet at no time do I hear any conservative here admit that this indicates a defeat of, dare I say it, cosmic proportions. We are now fighting the Battle of Tours because or our intractable ignorance of what culture is, how it works and how it evolves. While we were still listening to “How Much is that Doggy in the Window”, tiny studios were recording Bill Haley, Gene Vincent, Carl Perkins. Then came the Beatles and Viet Nam and you know the rest. Revisit those helicopter views of the 2011 Tsunami that hit the Japanese coast. That’s what hit us on the Gramscian battle front and we didn’t have a clue, not a jack rabbit’s inkling of what was in store or even where it was coming from sociologically.

Smarter faster.


69 posted on 04/06/2014 10:52:03 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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