From the amount of vote fraud they are now uncovering I doubt seriously Zippo did win in 2012.
From the poorness of McCain as a candidate, and the unpopularity of Iraq in 2008, and the debt crisis and failing economy, and then with the emergency 'Sky is falling' TARP bailout blank check bill (that Bush_ Paulson pushed) , I couldn't see how McCain could win, fair election or not.
Keep in mind the lib base accused GWB of stealing BOTH his elections, they even posted a ‘Im sorry world’ website after 2004.
Irrelevant.