Clapper?
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Clap on clap off....The Clapper!
Posted on 04/02/2014 8:03:40 AM PDT by xzins
The National Security Agency has searched the communications of American citizens without obtaining warrants, the administration's top intelligence official confirmed this week.
James Clapper, director of National Intelligence, confirmed the practice in a letter to Congress Tuesday. He didn't say when or how often the searches took place.
The NSA gathers the communications of ordinary Americans, but it had not been clear if those records had been searched.
"Senior officials have sometimes suggested that government agencies do not deliberately read Americans' emails, monitor their online activity or listen to their phone calls without a warrant," Sens. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Mark Udall, D-Colo., said in a joint statement. "However, the facts show that those suggestions were misleading, and that intelligence agencies have indeed conducted warrantless searches for Americans' communications."
The Obama administration defended the practice because it says the communications were gathered legally.
Civil rights groups say collecting and searching the information violates the Constitution.
We've been misled by Obama who has said that that no one is listening.
What he did not say is that it is not completely collected and completely available for searching should someone think it's important.
I continue to think this is what brought down David Petraeus and what continues to keep him quiet.
Other articles reveal that Senator Wyden was clearly told that the collection INCLUDED the actual conversations and emails...in other words...CONTENT.
We’ve been misled by Obama who has said that that no one is listening.
What he did not say is that it is not completely collected and completely available for searching should someone think it’s important.
I continue to think this is what brought down David Petraeus and what continues to keep him quiet.
A class action suit under Bivens would be some rockin’ great fun!
Clapper?
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"Ooopsie", said the NSA as the envelope just happened to fall open after it had accidentally been held over the steaming kettle.
Generally, a warrant, which requires probable cause to be issued, is required if there is "a reasonable expectation of privacy" (REP). But if no REP, then probable cause without a warrant may be sufficient to search. So REP or at the least, probable cause, needs to be shown.
If these were private conversations between two people in private places and emails not viewable by others, then it seems you could prove REP. If no REP, then where's the probable cause to search?
As I read it any search must be proven reasonable and with rare exceptions, like a crime being committed before your very eyes, a warrant must be issued. Otherwise, the government could always say, "We thought it was reasonable."
Maryland[Location of NSA HQ....lol]
Under the law, § 10-402, it is a 5 year / $10,000 felony to: (1) Willfully intercept, endeavor to intercept, or procure any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept, any wire, oral, or electronic communication;
(2) Willfully disclose, or endeavor to disclose, to any other person the contents of any wire, oral, or electronic communication, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, oral, or electronic communication in violation of this subtitle; or
(3) Willfully use, or endeavor to use, the contents of any wire, oral, or electronic communication, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through the interception of a wire, oral, or electronic communication in violation of this subtitle.
this is in the reasons why i would not cry a second if nsa ceased to exist.
Oh, puh-leez - Obama doesn’t give a rat’s *ss about the constitution, why should the NSA?
We know Clapper routinely lies so if this is his “least untruthful” version imagine how bad it must really be.
Laws ? irrelevant.
warrants ? who needs ‘em?
Constitutional rights? what are they?
Now, now, this is all just conspiracy nutter nonsense. /sarc
I do not trust the NSA.
History has proven that if given a capability a government will abuse it.
No exceptions.
So wiretapping your phone would require a warrant because there is REP. There is a likelihood the same would apply to at least some of what the NSA has been doing.
Well, if the State of Maryland can arrest federal agents under its statutes, God bless them.
Why doesn’t DEMOCRAT senator Wyden, Fienstien and the other leftist who are “concerned” join with Republicans in putting an end to this Bolshevik like behavior on the part of obama and Reid? Sorry forgot party before country and liberty rules in DC.
Kabuki Theater anyone...
That's right. That's why THE issue in the upcoming elections is the cutting the $4 trillion government beast by at least 80% (would still be too big - $800 billion) and replace it with the FREE MARKET ECONOMY. The Right and anyone that cares about their future and this country's future should rally around that one issue and unite behind the best candidate(s) who best understands this.
Politically, nothing else matters - all the other issues are peripheral and chump change in comparison IMO and actually begin to automatically disappear upon once again having a limited constitutional government.
Agreed. And the more you learn about the history of our intelligence agencies, the less you trust any of the alphabet-soup groups.
I keep coming back to what is doable, Buggs. Cruz says we need a “tsunami” of public opinion, and he’s right, but that is itself so hard to achieve.
What we really need is for God to act, even if it’s just to throw things out of kilter.
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