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Rand Paul: GOP must get ‘beyond deportation’
Politico ^ | 4/14 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 04/01/2014 8:34:13 AM PDT by gwgn02

en. Rand Paul on Tuesday argued that the Republican Party needs to get “beyond deportation” in order to break through to Hispanic voters. The Kentucky Republican and likely 2016 contender argued that before the GOP can make its case to the Latino community, which voted overwhelmingly for Democrats in 2012, the party needs to make clear it is open to a more welcoming approach to immigration.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/rand-paul-gop-must-get-beyond-deportation-105241.html#ixzz2xeJfopZK

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; chamberofamnesty; cheaplabor; gopestablishment; illegals; liberaltarian; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; mexico; randnesty; randpaul; randpaultedcruz; randsconcerntrolls; sellout
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To: kevkrom

Guillotines from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure the beast is extincted.


61 posted on 04/01/2014 10:08:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: basil

Rand Paul needs to get beyond running for any office.

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Agree!!


62 posted on 04/01/2014 10:09:50 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: gwgn02

I’m beginning to detest this man.


63 posted on 04/01/2014 10:14:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: gwgn02

FU Shamnesty RP.


64 posted on 04/01/2014 10:25:55 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: gwgn02
If I were a Latino facing deportation, I'd hire a lawyer and sue the USA.

First, I'd remind them that their presidents, much of, to most of, their federal government, many of their state governments and quite a few of their cities essentially eliminated the US border and invited me and my family in.

Not just invited, but welcomed us with open arms and total acceptance, even establishing "sanctuary cities" that protect us from US law.

They encouraged us with official government programs and government approved loans to help us buy homes here and social programs provided for us and our children and children to be, including our medical care.

And now you are going to deport me and my children, children born here same as you, after you've welcomed me and those like me for decades, through multiple presidents and congresses of both parties?

I believe you've set me, my family and others like us up inviting us here. And now you kick me and my family out? You have laws against doing these things and your actions against me and mine will make you guilty of them.

You're actions welcoming us here have, at minimum, made my children American citizens, and I believe you've made me, someone who has abided by every law other than the one you pushed aside to welcome me here, a citizen as well.

Let your morality and your legal system decide, because if you deport me and my family now after all you've done, prepare for the class action suit we will file.
Buenas suerte.

65 posted on 04/01/2014 10:35:57 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Soul of the South
Like so many who are elected to serve in Washington, Rand’s eyes have been opened. He has met the puppeteers behind the curtain and the invisible wealthy who really control the levers of power. Like all those idealistic politicians who came before, he could choose to resist and be scorned or succumb and enjoy the ride to the inevitable outcome. It appears Rand, like almost every other newcomer to the city inside the beltway, has chosen to become part of the club and play the role he is assigned. His first job appears to be helping McCain and the other faux conservatives tell the fading middle class conservatives they must “get over it” with respect to amnesty.

A really good reason to move the Govt out of Washington.Virtually ALL Govt Business could be done via internet. Put those suckers back home where we can watch them. Make them OUR employees, not our overlords.

66 posted on 04/01/2014 10:39:14 AM PDT by snowtigger
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To: Delta Dawn

Our Dear Leader?


67 posted on 04/01/2014 12:02:24 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Not sure who you are referencing as, ‘Our Dear Leader’, but the right needs to coalesce behind someone and do it soon.

If the right goes into the 2016 election without the ability to support one candidate, then we will end up with Clinton again. The Clintons learned their lessons well.


68 posted on 04/01/2014 12:15:12 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
69 posted on 04/01/2014 12:52:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: Delta Dawn
but the right needs to coalesce behind someone and do it soon. If the right goes into the 2016 election without...

I feel so strongly about preventing perpetual campaigning that I would amend the Constitution to do it.

The conditions of November 2016 that will govern voter behavior (THIRTY MONTHS FROM NOW!!!) are unknowable.

Lining up behind a candidate before the 2014 midterm results are known is absurd.

If I had my way, the first primary would be 1 June 2016. Actually, if I had my way, I would ban primaries.

70 posted on 04/01/2014 12:57:58 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Jim Noble

I like the way you think, JN. However, I have to take sustenance in the real world. I don’t want the candidate to be selected before the midterms either. I do however know who it is I could throw my unqualified support behind when the time comes.

Trust in this, if Cankles is able to get herself up off of the living room futon and accept her party’s coronation, it will be extremely difficult to defeat her in the general election.

The right will have to be on it’s game to win in November 2016.


71 posted on 04/01/2014 1:08:12 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

I believe the only way HRC will be defeated is in a three-way race with a RINO and a conservative.

40% of the voters affirm conservatism. 30% are committed to communism, the other 30% are confused. Conservatives cannot get the last 10.1% under these conditions - for every mush-brained centrist we gain, we lose 2 disgusted conservatives.

Make Hillary! and Christie/Bush split the 60%. It can be done.


72 posted on 04/01/2014 1:16:32 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: Jim Noble

A split vote is how Clinton the First won two terms in office.


73 posted on 04/01/2014 1:19:39 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SoConPubbie

FURP!! No amnesty pushers!!


74 posted on 04/01/2014 1:30:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

>>When the People say “seal the border to stop the flood” the subject is changed to deportation. <<

But that’s not what most say at all. What they say most often is “NO AMNESTY!!”

And you know that’s the case. But no amnesty, by definition, means deportation, so Paul is on target. He’s also right that we have to get past it, and past “no amnesty” before Hispanics will be open to other GOP positions, many of which will naturally appeal to them.


75 posted on 04/01/2014 1:52:36 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Labyrinthos

>>That’s very Alinsky-like for Rand Paul to re-characterize the debate from the strict enforcement of existing immigration laws to mass round-ups and deportation.<<

How is he inaccurate? You don’t think Hispanics realize that “strict enforcement of existing immigration laws” means exactly that: “mass round-ups and deportation”? Alinsky wasn’t interested in accuracy; just tearing down an opponent by any means other than logic.


76 posted on 04/01/2014 1:58:04 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Delta Dawn
A split vote is how Clinton the First won two terms in office

That's true, up to a point.

I think the 1992 election actually supports my view.

A paranoid dwarf with no political experience got 20% of the vote! That's halfway there!

And he was running against Ronald Reagan's designated successor, and a stealth commie who had not uncloaked yet.

A straight-up conservative LEADER, who has survived a statewide or national election, running against HRC who is fully exposed and a RINO with nothing to say has the potential to win a 3-way.

It's much more likely than winning a two-way race, IMO.

77 posted on 04/01/2014 2:03:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We’re not talking deportation, Randy.

Stop giving them jobs and free stuff.

The rest will take care of itself.


Bing!

(And effective enforcement and penalties for hiring illegals. Treat employing an illegal like having drugs on your property. Civil forfeiture. And for the homeowner being serviced by the illegal, not just the landscaper who hired him.)

No fence needed anymore.


78 posted on 04/01/2014 2:04:16 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Lose to Cruz - 2016!)
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To: Jim Noble

If we ignore history, we are doomed to repeat it. There is 47% of the population who will vote for the candidate from the left regardless what piece of hamburger is put forward by the left.

If it is a 3-way vote for Prez, Hillary will be president come 2017.


79 posted on 04/01/2014 2:50:43 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn
Well then, seems like half the people on this site - like last time around - will not vote because no candidate will be conservative enough or some such excuse. And once again millions of so-called conservative/Republicans will sit it out (sniffing their socks) - preferring to allow whatever to come what may.

The Clintons may have learned their lessons, but so-called conservatives have not, and likely never will learn anything except how to make ever grander excuses while beating their collective chests, shouting their true conservative values - which will look like so much hand wringing to every one else.

Our Dear Leader is a reference to either the current Resident or Kim Jong-un take your pick.

80 posted on 04/01/2014 3:46:51 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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