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To: ClearCase_guy

Exactly!! Is is Ukraine, not the Ukraine. I have friends from there and it pisses them off when their country is referred to in that manner. It is like saying, the France, the Mexico, the Spain.

13 posted on 03/28/2014 6:54:29 AM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)

Exactly!! Is is Ukraine, not the Ukraine. I have friends from there and it pisses them off when their country is referred to in that manner. It is like saying, the France, the Mexico, the Spain.

Like THE United States of America?

16 posted on 03/28/2014 7:02:57 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)

Actually it might be more historically correct to say

the country "Ukraine" = 
      "Galicia" 
      + "The Ukraine" (East Bank and West Bank) 
      + "Novorossiya" 
      + "Crimea" 
      + "Bukovina" 
      + "Carpathian Oblast"

There really was an area with fluid boundaries which was a borderland (okraina/ukraina) for centuries (especially 1380 to 1654 and later) between the Lithuanian, Lithuanian/Polish, Polish, Swedish, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, and Russian Empires. That would be "The Ukraine" in English as a region, but that is just a part of the present-day country Ukraine.

That is,Ukraine is so much more than just "The Ukraine", which is still a valid historical term.

18 posted on 03/28/2014 7:18:41 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian

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