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Posted on 03/28/2014 6:28:17 AM PDT by 2banana
The Ukraine as seen by 2banana.
The Ukraine had a free and fairly elected government (Yanukovych). It was a corrupt government that wanted closer ties to Russia. But we all don't get the governments we want. That is why there are elections. And elections have consequences.
But in the Ukraine - There were massive demonstrations in the capitol and a new unelected government was installed. They did not win any elections and went about changing Ukraine's foreign policy in a major way.
All this was supported by obama as legitimate because the people supported it.
Crimea didn't like all this and actually had an election and decided to change governments and align with Russia.
obama didn't like this and called it illegitimate.
Complicating matters is that the USA has a signed treaty with the Ukraine to defend its borders (in exchange for the Ukraine for giving up its nukes).
The USA also supported Kosovo to break away from Serbia with no authorization, vote or mandate. Because the people "supported" it.
It is no wonder the world does not trust America.
International Business Conference at Ukraine in Washington - National Press Club - December 13, 2013
Victoria Nuland - Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasian Affairs December 2013, : US Has Invested $5 Billion In The Development of Ukrainian, "Democratic Institutions"
Why didn't you mention that?
I'll look for your answer.
Why didn't you mention that?
Are the people in power in Ukraine freely elected and legitimate or not?
Did they follow the rule of law for removing a leader (Yanukovych) and replacing him or not?
You can't have it both ways...
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Again...The freely elected reps in the Rada impeached Yanukovich. Yanuk fled before he could be removed. The Rada then voted on an interim replacement and they voted to hold freely held elections in May.
Those are the facts, none of which were in your summary.
Why?
Those are the facts, none of which were in your summary.
Why?
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Good question. I too would like an answer.
I am not cheering for any side. I am just pointing out when you support and foster one illegitimate government don't be surprised if others copy you...
Yes, of course - and the months of violent rioting, thousands of Molotov cocktails, torching of government buildings and killing of policemen were just yuts celebrating a Superbowl win.
The Ukrainian Parliament (after impeaching Yanukovich) just CHANGED the Ukrainian Constitution, installed their own interim president and took over all powers of the administration. Maybe there might be a vote in a few months...
None of this they had the legitimate power to do.
If this happened in America - we would be calling it what? Imagine if the republicans in congress did just this to obama. Yeah, you might be happy with the outcome (this time) but it would not be a constitutional or legitimate government
When America fosters and supports this kind of nonsense - don't be surprised if others copy it and throw it back in our faces.
The Parliament voted to change the Constitution. 386 reps.(deputies) out of 450 voted for it. That is within their power. Yanukovich, who abandoned the country and who was impeached for doing so (amongst other things) was not there to sign off on it.
So the parliament then voted and appointed an interim president and to set elections for May 2014.
You mischaracterize and simplify the events.
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