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Hospitals Plot the End of Insurance Companies
The Fiscal Times ^ | Thursday, March 27, 2014 | Rob Garver

Posted on 03/27/2014 10:13:38 AM PDT by Star Traveler

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To: Jane Long

Its a complicated issue and many of the players do not have our best interest in mind.


81 posted on 03/27/2014 1:02:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CodeToad

..Because fraudulent hospital billing practices, to recoup losses due to society’s freeloaders, have absolutely nothing to do with it...


82 posted on 03/27/2014 1:14:18 PM PDT by LadyBuck (Some day very soon, Life's little Twinkie gauge is gonna go......empty.)
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To: LadyBuck

Never said they didn’t. The 1986 EMTALA screwed hospitals and us.


83 posted on 03/27/2014 1:15:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

I may have a personal bias, since my insurance company (AETNA) was outstanding for the years my child was fighting for her life.

Had to squabble with the hospital to get itemized billing...and when I wanted records, I had to fight to get them.

When the first question out of their mouths is “Do you want the bills and records for a lawyer?”, you know something is messed up.


84 posted on 03/27/2014 1:21:16 PM PDT by LadyBuck (Some day very soon, Life's little Twinkie gauge is gonna go......empty.)
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To: Star Traveler

I guess that was my mind jumping to conclusions...it is being cut ( a bunch) figured that like Tricare it would just go away in another couple of years


85 posted on 03/27/2014 1:30:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: LadyBuck

I would have said, “Yes. Since such a smart-assed reply as that suggests you are trying to hide something.”


86 posted on 03/27/2014 1:36:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

You nailed it!

As long as they don’t get s bill in the mail, most people dont give a FF.

You would be shocked and amazed at what hospitals stick onto a bill, knowing YOU will never look.


87 posted on 03/27/2014 1:47:23 PM PDT by LadyBuck (Some day very soon, Life's little Twinkie gauge is gonna go......empty.)
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To: Star Traveler

Then go to your doctor, but don’t stop those who are able to buy their own medicine. You didn’t used to need a doctor’s order to get prescription medicine. There are many people who know their medications.

For someone like yourself there are now apps that can track and explain your health condition and they’re coming online faster all the time. Studies show that doctors make all kinds of diagnostic and prescription errors. Technology is working to fix that. Why not make it broader and let those who can manage their own life.

What I am calling for is government as advisor, not controller. Give me a choice.


88 posted on 03/27/2014 2:10:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
What I am calling for is government as advisor, not controller. Give me a choice.

The choice should always be tween the patient and his doctor and not "the patient, the doctor, and the insurance company" (or the government).

89 posted on 03/27/2014 2:33:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: steve86

True ...


90 posted on 03/27/2014 2:36:47 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: LadyBuck
When the first question out of their mouths is “Do you want the bills and records for a lawyer?”, you know something is messed up.

Fortunately, that's no longer the case, under the law. You have complete access to them for your own records.

91 posted on 03/27/2014 2:42:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: LadyBuck
You would be shocked and amazed at what hospitals stick onto a bill, knowing YOU will never look.

I look at every line. I just called Medicare because of two shots included in the bill that I know I never got. Medicare told me to go to the hospital, itself, and get them to correct it.

92 posted on 03/27/2014 2:45:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: driftdiver

Insurance companies sure don’t have our best interest in mind.

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Hospitals are mega corporations and I assure you, that your best interest is not at the top of their list.


93 posted on 03/27/2014 2:51:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Star Traveler

What I am saying is let the consumer rule. There are people who don’t need a doctor’s input to treat themselves. Others need a pharmacist or a nurse. Let the market dynamic decide, not government regulation.


94 posted on 03/27/2014 3:04:15 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

There’s a reason for the extensive training that doctor’s have (and not insurance agents or government employees). Now, if someone wants to get the same kind of extensive training that doctors have and “be a doctor” - that’s fine.

But, I would also remind one of the saying that applies to doctors and lawyers. I’ll use the lawyer version, and paraphrase it somewhat.

“A man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client.”

A person does not want be the patient who is also a FOOL!


95 posted on 03/27/2014 3:10:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

They call it practicing medicine and doctors make mistakes all the time. Healthcare liberty will actually improve doctoring and make all that skill more valuable.


96 posted on 03/27/2014 3:19:30 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Star Traveler

If it is a MA plan it will be highly regulated.


97 posted on 03/27/2014 7:55:23 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Nifster

Kaiser is a mill, run by unions....


98 posted on 03/27/2014 8:08:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Zman516

This is the only way that an organization like Mount Sinai can fend off single payer and government take over of their hospital.


99 posted on 03/27/2014 8:12:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: driftdiver

Neither do hospital CEOs


100 posted on 03/27/2014 8:43:49 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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