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To: CivilWarBrewing

“Has the female petty officer been discharged from the Navy yet? She is obviously unfit for duty, let alone guilty of negligent homicide.”

Nowhere did I find basis for your assumption and judgement. People cross the quarterdeck 24 hours a day dressed in “Civies”. Military personnel do so with ID Card in hand and are subject to search at all times. The female Petty Officer did her job and the perp attacked her, probably when she asked who business was with and for ID. I have NEVER crossed a quarterdeck maned by fewer than two on duty at the post. Quite often there is an officer present as well. Also, unless a Security Violation has been called away, hand guns are holstered. She was attacked by surprise. The perp was apparently non-threatening until that point.


26 posted on 03/26/2014 7:11:59 PM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Birdsbane

...........The female Petty Officer did her job and the perp attacked her, probably when she asked who business was with and for ID. I have NEVER crossed a quarterdeck maned by fewer than two on duty at the post. Quite often there is an officer present as well. Also, unless a Security Violation has been called away, hand guns are holstered. She was attacked by surprise. The perp was apparently non-threatening until that point.

LOL, “nowhere do I find basis for your assumption and judgment”. What the hell does “People cross the quarterdeck 24 hours a day dressed in Civies” have to do with anything? This little girl, according to the article was ARMED! She was not carrying a toy, she was carrying a gun AND FOR A PURPOSE! The perp then took the gun away from her! Most likely that would not have happened if a big strong guy had been there and not a young scared girl. So, arguably PC got Mayo killed!

No, the female Petty Officer apparently, from what we read now, did not do her job! She allowed this guy to take her weapon away from her. So, she failed to do her job on that important and factual point. Having stood many a Navy guard post all over the world, I guarantee you your told a million times to NOT let this weapon be taken away from you!!!!

Then, you say “she was attacked by surprise”............uh, duuh............that’s the point! She failed again! She was guarding a billion dollar warship and should not have been surprised. Then you say her gun was holstered! Again, you make our point! A strong guy would have pushed off and in 1-2 seconds drawn his weapon and maybe shot the perp and saved Mayo’s life and protected the taxpayers warship. Your gal, most likely a typically weak (arm strength) female let the guy take it away from her and kill her fellow shipmate Mayo.

I’m sorry. I don’t often get this animated about anything. But, this young girl OBJECTIVELY failed her duty that night in the most egregious ways there are. Namely, her actions led directly to another sailor getting killed.

Notwithstanding any of the foregoing, there are no doubt some officers and non coms that are at fault at least partially as well and given a good kid lost his life in this incident where there is significant fault those people should walk the plank.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 7:55:33 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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