[Mariner]

"The majority of the Ukrainians wanted to associate with the EU"

That's an erroneous and unsubstantiated contention.

Just a couple/few years back Ukraine had a free and open election to choose a president and the candidate that wanted closer ties to Russia...and more distance from the EU, won.

The majority of Ukrainians wanted to be in the Russian sphere.

While a majority in the WESTERN part of the country wanted to be part of Europe.

That said, who ever thought "Ukraine" could be just one country besides the Soviets?

Nobody.

[RaceBannon]

I know people who just fled there

So, I got it first hand

Who did you get your information from?