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To: Celerity
When the government tells you to do something, It’s NEVER in your best interest.

I disagree with that statement. Government tells us to put on a seatbelt, and while I don't think they should, it is in your best interest to wear one. And government tells us to get health insurance, and again I don't want them to order me, but I think having health insurance IS the right thing for most people.

I have vaccinations from when I was a kid but those vaccines are different than what we are facing these days.

IN fact, most vaccinations today are much safer than the vaccines you took as a kid. We have advanced the science to a great degree. Maybe the discussion is more about vaccines for NEW things, rather than new vaccines for existing things.

And in large part, people blame vaccines for many things for which there is no real evidence. People don't do a good job of understanding causality.

Imagine that every day 1 kid randomly dies. So in one year, 365 kids are dead. Now, imagine that all those kids get a vaccination. What are the chances that at least one kid is going to die within 3 days of when they take the vaccine? Actually, it is pretty high. In fact, it is pretty likely that several of the kids will die within a few days of the vaccine.

So if 10 kids die within a week of taking the vaccine, that is 10 people who will claim the vaccine killed their kids. And they will point out that out of 365 kids, 10 died, which is like a 3% death rate, which is outrageous. But in fact, under this exercise, NONE of the kids died because of the vaccine. They would have died anyway.

20 posted on 03/24/2014 9:47:21 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

This is kinda ... Well, Insane.

Also, I think I know you personally - We’ll have to get caught up in mail or something here to see if there was a connection at some point.

But you see, Vaccinating is an exercise in statistical analysis. I can counter any pro-vaccination argument with statistics because that’s just the way it is.

“I won’t let your kid around mine because you don’t vaccinate” Dumbest thing ever said. I guess that parent has no confidence in their vaccines, in actuality.

“You’re the reason these illnesses are coming back” They aren’t coming back. If they are, then this too is a true testament to how vaccinations don’t work. You’re claiming that success has occurred where it actually hasn’t.

“We managed to knock these diseases out when Vaccines were dished out” Again, then why are we worried ?

“Not vaccinating your kids means you’re willing to put them at risk because of something that you believe that the rest of the world has accepted as fact, is a lie.” Yes. Global warming is pretty mainstream too. Or is Global cooling ? Either way, it’s illegal in some areas of the world to even question this agenda. But I’ll tell you what my thought is before it’s also declared a thought crime : “Why would I side on ANYTHING that the democrats / progressives / communists / globalists / greenies / tyrants all agree on?” This is the crux of the issue.

I have seem the following pieces of evidence that have affected my decisions not to vaccinate:

1 There is a connection between vaccinations and Autism. Ok, I don’t know all there is to know on this, no one really does. But just the fact that the two have been connected is enough for me to take a step back, re-evaluate and withdraw from the practice until clearer data IS available. THAT is responsible parenting.

2 Government has it’s hands in the vaccination programs. In fact, Government is jumping into more and more of the medical field through legislative fiat. Medicine is no longer the domain of the doctor, it’s the domain of the government. A government with a clear and steady history of doing harm instead of good. Again, a flag is raised and I want answers and proof before injecting myself or my kids with ANYTHING.

3. I don’t care if it’s a saline solution with a lollipop afterwards. It’s a needle injecting things into our bodies that we aren’t privvy to learn about. These chemicals are secret, they are questionable, and to blindly trust ANYONE is totally foolish. When I get the answers I need, you may be able to put that something in my child. Until then, you try and you die.

4. The idea of Government has only helped in a handful of scenarios. Seat belts are not one of those. Everyone knows a seatbelt can save your life - But to mandate it’s use is tyranny, pure and simple. For any leader to tell me that I have to follow their will is completely intolerable. I’m aware of seat belt effectiveness. I wear one all the time. But to require it frankly insults me - And I won’t tolerate it. The only place the Government appears to be helping is in our wildlife and huntin management. I have evaluated the hunting practices in several states with thorough resolve - And the State Game commissions have a very good hold of how to preserve game animals. I appreciate their efforts, and I have been show how it works.

That’s all I ask for. Just demonstrate to me how it works, and what it is. Sell me on the issue, don’t require me on the issue.


28 posted on 03/25/2014 2:01:42 PM PDT by Celerity
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