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What I Learned Negotiating With Steve Jobs [Heidi Roizen]
Heidi Roizen's Blog ^ | Saturday, March 22, 2014 | Heidi Roizen

Posted on 03/23/2014 11:13:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler

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I remember Heidi Roizen for some reason. I guess I liked the software or whatever. At any rate, here's something for people who,are interested in Steve Jobs and his legacy.
1 posted on 03/23/2014 11:13:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Swordmaker

Something of interest ...


2 posted on 03/23/2014 11:14:18 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Watching the movie about Steve Jobs I came to 1 big conclusion; bottom line, he was a real jerk.


3 posted on 03/23/2014 11:19:45 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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It takes that to do something like Apple. I’m sure glad he was, because I love the products ... :-) ...

AND ... I’ve been called a real big jerk, too ... when I’m running a project and I have to get things done and I know how I want it. That just goes with the territory. It takes a special kind of person to be that kind of jerk.

I don’t go for the hand-holding or worry about hurt feelings. “We’re here to get things done. Buck up!”


4 posted on 03/23/2014 11:27:29 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: fungoking

But he dropped acid and went to an ashram in India so he was, like, cool, doncha know.


5 posted on 03/23/2014 11:32:00 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (Sure would be nice if the same articles weren't posted multiple times)
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To: Star Traveler

Good business lesson.

‘Appearance’ is often if not always the essential clincher to any business deal.


6 posted on 03/23/2014 11:32:08 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Star Traveler

A good Sargent!


7 posted on 03/23/2014 11:33:10 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08 (SEND BITCOIN 1CYfujvffxKKPHKvrQvLP3CDb3Z5Lu7LwM Funny Money)
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To: fungoking
Watching the movie about Steve Jobs I came to 1 big conclusion; bottom line, he was a real jerk.

Watching "The Social Network" movie, I came to that conclusion about Mark Zuckerberg. Most movies regarding business success stories show the driven men as jerks. People at the top more often than not, have stepped on a lot of toes making it to the top so there is some justification labeling them as jerks. Books tell a more rounded story than a short movie, showing more than a one-dimensional character.

8 posted on 03/23/2014 11:37:14 AM PDT by roadcat
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I personally don’t care about that - because whatever happened - I got the Apple products that I wanted. For me, as the consumer, it’s only what I have in my hand that I’m concerned about. I’m typing to you on my iPad now, which I ALWAYS have with me.

I remember reading that Jobs went to Reed College (in Portland, Oregon). I lived only half a mile from campus. Who knows, I might have passed him without knowing it.

I understand he dropped out, but he took some classes he was interested in. Calligraphy was one of them (I took calligraphy, too). He slept on the floor of some friends’ dorm rooms for a while.

Probably half my friends back then were back-packing around, going to Woodstock (I went to Vortex, the rock festival sponsored by the State of Oregon) and you-name-it.

Some of those people are whacked now, some are dead now and some are quite successful now.

It worked for Steve Jobs and I’m glad.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 11:44:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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I love these “I beat Steve Jobs at his own game” look at me Mom type articles.

I never heard of her, T/Maker company or her software.

I did hear of NeXT — it was a short blip on the radar.

Her 50 percent story gives the impression that Steve was stupid, she was smart.

Uh huh...

10 posted on 03/23/2014 11:53:32 AM PDT by detch
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I have no doubt Jobs knew and understood. It was the others that he made the promise to that he had that in there for.


11 posted on 03/23/2014 11:56:36 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: detch

Here’s some more about her ...

Heidi Roizen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Roizen

I remember her from the Mac Software that she and her brother marketed, and then from her time at Apple.


12 posted on 03/23/2014 11:59:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks, interesting article.


13 posted on 03/23/2014 12:00:11 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Star Traveler; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Negotiating with the late Steve Jobs —PING!


Steve Jobs Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

14 posted on 03/23/2014 12:22:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Star Traveler

bkmk


15 posted on 03/23/2014 12:24:23 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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Star Traveler, thanks.

Is she still trying to find her way? she doesn’t stay anywhere for very long...


16 posted on 03/23/2014 12:34:14 PM PDT by detch
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To: Star Traveler

This is a very important story to give you an insight into politics and taxes..and remember the term Hollywood Net

Playing these games with the number to make profit appear and disappear at will is used all the time ....particularly tax time...the entertainment industry is famous for this hence her term Hollywood net...

You will also find a particular particular political tilt in the practitioners of this that explains the paradox of their odd tax position..because we all know profit is evil and must be taxed..but he say in Hollywood is no one ever made a profit.

You will alse note it all about fault appearances..Jobes want stupid .he knew it was the same bottom line number..

The fault appearances is a sop for almost everybody on the left in business


17 posted on 03/23/2014 12:44:48 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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I think it was a real simple explanation in this case. Jobs had told those other guys “50%” ... so he wanted to show them 50%. Past that point, he didn’t care ... :-) ...

I think you’re making it more complex than it really was.


18 posted on 03/23/2014 12:52:53 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Jobs was ego driven. Simple as that. Genius at the computer, and till he got some hard knocks - business stupid. That ego often clouded his judgement, as can be seen by this story. To want 50% because you want 50%, and you don’t care how you get it is supreme business ignorance.

There is one rule in business - the numbers must add up. Don’t care about the genius of the product, the marketing, the vision of the entrepreneur, or anything else, but the bottom line is the bottom line - the numbers must add up. It is the Great Force that levels all playing fields.

So many have failed the startup game for that very reason. They had underpants gnome visions of their business, or in the case of Jobs, delusions of grandeur. Had he been business smart he would have been the Bill Gates of the computing world and not Bill Gates.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 12:53:20 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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Well ... I can’t accuse Jobs of business ignorance ... LOL ... not from the success of Apple.

The situation was real simple. See Post #18.


20 posted on 03/23/2014 12:58:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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