Hawaii law lets police have sex with prostitutes

Associated Press ^ | Mar 21, 2014 12:50 AM EDT | Sam Eifling

[Olog-hai]

Honolulu police officers have urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes during investigations, touching off a heated debate.

Authorities say they need the legal protection to catch lawbreakers in the act. Critics, including human trafficking experts and other police, say it’s unnecessary and could further victimize sex workers, many of whom have been forced into the trade. …

[Olog-hai]

No, no, no.

I saw this story earlier today, but was not sure if it was appropriate to post. But this is just abuse of the law. Totally unnecessary to make arrests.

[smokingfrog]

It’s a dirty job, but somebody’s gotta do it..

[RichInOC]

The government hates competition.

[jsanders2001]

I guess narcotics gets to use as well... Most do anyway. How else do you think they got the job in the first place?

[bunkerhill7]

Oh, we’re going to a hookerlaw
A hooker, hooker, hooker, hooker, hookerlaw
Ev’rybody loves a hookerlaw
Where the lawlaw is the kau kau at the big law

We’ll throw our nets out into the sea And all the ama ama come-a swimming to me Oh, we’re going to a hookerlaw
A hooker, hooker, hooker, hooker, hookerlaw

Ev’rybody loves a hookerlaw
Where the lawlaw is the kau kau at the hookerlaw

What a beautiful day for fishing
In the old Hawaiian way
All the hookerlaw nets are swishing
Down in old Laie Bay
Oh, we’re going to a hookerlaw
A hooker, hooker, hooker, hooker, hookerlaw

Ev’rybody loves a hookerlaw
Where the lawlaw is the kau kau at the big law

[fieldmarshaldj]

I got a better idea, how ‘bout forcing the cops to have sex with the pimps instead ?

[mdmathis6]

So how long before the gay male prostitutes file a law suit complaining that the straight male police won’t have sex with them so they can be busted at equal rates as with the female “sex workers”? Simply using the occasional token gay male cop won’t do it because all discrimination in straight male cops must be stamped out...and besides the Gay cop will be too old and quite the fatty...just not fabulous enough!

[TigersEye]

Wait, Danno! You can book her later.

[Hugin]

So the law lets cops have sex with prostitutes then stiff them?

[The_Media_never_lie]

Then, shouldn’t police be able to embezzle in order to catch embezzlers, maybe commit a murder in order to catch a mass murderer, etc.?

[crazycatlady]

I could feature some problems with cops who are married.

[GeronL]

More insanity

[punditwannabe]

I’m like, “HUH??”. I live in Hawaii, how embarrassing!! That is just screwed up!

[Jean2]

So do I and ICAM.

[Olog-hai]

That’s the slippery-slope “logic” being employed here, looks to me.

[Mark17]

Honolulu police officers have urged lawmakers to keep an exemption in state law that allows undercover officers to have sex with prostitutes during investigations

Ah, well ok, but my question is, what are they exempted from if they are doing a murder investigation?

[nathanbedford]

Let's see,

It is a constitutionally impermissible to prosecute consenting adults for engaging in sex in private. Why in a capitalist country is it permissible to prosecute consenting adults for engaging in sex in private for hire?

If a doctor will not treat a patient, except for money, that is not a crime but is part of our understanding of capitalism. We do not say that requiring a payment for medical services somehow attacks the purity of the Hippocratic oath, we understand that medicine exists in a capitalist world.

It is the unrelenting goal of the left to remove capitalism as the method by which goods and services are distributed in our society. Just yesterday we had a thread in which we were treated to a lecture on "Ted" in which a Harvard professor put forth the idea that to distribute, for example medical services, on the basis of money is on sound public policy because it is morally wrong.

I can recall as a college sophomore being required to write what was expected to be a favorable review of John Kenneth Galbraith's, "The Affluent Society" which told the American people that because they put fins on cars rather than wings on school buildings they were too stupid to dispose of their money, rather those choices should be done by elitists who know better. In other words Galbraith sought to substitute political judgment for market judgment. This is the unremitting quest of the left. Conservatives should resist this wherever it threatens us.

In the instance of prostitution, we are told by our betters that, although it is constitutionally permissible to engage in sex in private between consenting adults of either or both sexes, it becomes a crime if we choose to do so because money changes hands. The result? The oldest profession goes underground, the police state follows it underground, corruption flourishes and prostitution survives through the millennia. For what?

If there are associated social ills accompanying the business of prostitution, such as abuse by pimps, regulate those activities. Look at the German model in which prostitution is legalized, localized, regulated, and supervised by health officials.

[Drew68]

It is a constitutionally impermissible to prosecute consenting adults for engaging in sex in private. Why in a capitalist country is it permissible to prosecute consenting adults for engaging in sex in private for hire?

If a doctor will not treat a patient, except for money, that is not a crime but is part of our understanding of capitalism.

Don't try to introduce logic and reason when discussing the illegalities of prostitution. You'll only wind up hurting your head. At any rate, I've often wondered why it is that prostitution suddenly becomes legal when the sex act is filmed and downloaded onto a porn site.

If there are associated social ills accompanying the business of prostitution, such as abuse by pimps, regulate those activities.

As an interesting aside, the recent best-selling book Super Freakonomics did a whole chapter on the business of prostitution. A researcher profiled several Chicago streetwalkers and found that those who use pimps actually make more money from fewer sex acts than those who don't --even after handing over the traditional 25% of their earnings to the pimp. Turns out, if the John is black, the prostitute offers a fixed rate. If the John is white, the prostitute asks him how much he's willing to pay. In almost all cases, the white John offers far more than she's used to getting from her black customers. The pimps know this as well and they go out and find white customers for their girls.

[Drew68]

It’s a dirty job, but somebody’s gotta do it..

Yet somehow I doubt the cops are getting this dirty trying to bust male prostitutes.