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To: Always A Marine

Given that Russia and Ukraine are on the verge of armed conflict then the Turks would have every right in the world to close the strait to BOTH Russian and Ukrainian shipping for the duration of any conflict.

In advance of this potential conflict it is prudent of the Turks to advise the Russians of Turkey’s treaty obligations should Russia wage open war against Ukraine.

And Russia will not engage Turkey over this because to do so will mean Turkey will request that NATO honor Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty.


42 posted on 03/18/2014 4:56:12 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: MeganC

So much for the useful idiot argument that this has nothing to do with the US. Turkey = NATO. NATO = Article V. Boom.

It’s far better to now deal firmly with Putin diplomatically than wait until this escalates into an Article V military situation.


43 posted on 03/18/2014 5:09:25 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: MeganC
Given that Russia and Ukraine are on the verge of armed conflict then the Turks would have every right in the world to close the strait to BOTH Russian and Ukrainian shipping for the duration of any conflict.

In advance of this potential conflict it is prudent of the Turks to advise the Russians of Turkey’s treaty obligations should Russia wage open war against Ukraine.

And Russia will not engage Turkey over this because to do so will mean Turkey will request that NATO honor Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty.

If Turkey closes the Bosporus to Russia but allows NATO shipping to reinforce or support Ukraine, Russia will be justified to do whatever is necessary to close the straits to all of its enemies. As for Article V obligations, do you really think any NATO member nation wants to go to war against Russia? NATO was formed to defend Western Europe against a massive Soviet invasion that never came, not to project offensive warfare in distant lands. For practical reasons (our allies' current military weaknesses) as well as political ones, America would have to carry that fight alone.

53 posted on 03/18/2014 6:24:54 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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