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To: AU72
Didn't President Clinton promise Crimea that the United States would defend them militarily if they promised to give up their nukes? Well, they gave up their nukes, and we've not defended them now Russia has Crimea.

Obama should've sent military assets to Crimea 3 months ago. Obama is the most negligent president in U.S. history, but then again he is probably in support of the expansion of Communism and is faking his outrage. No sanctions on Putin speaks volumes.

Russian reset, backing the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, bombing Libya leaving it to descend into chaos and Benghazi, secret negotiations between a woman born in Iran (Valerie Jarrett) and Iran which can only result in Iran getting nukes, trashing Israel, now failing to defend Crimea.. What a train wreck!

15 posted on 03/18/2014 11:13:41 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Yes, yes, and yes. The Security Assurance to Ukraine (in return for them giving up 5000 nukes) was reaffirmed as recently as 2009 (ie., by Obama, he can’t even claim this was some mistake by a previous Pres.) Look it up on Wikipedia. It was actually one of the best things Clinton did (except perhaps for not actually been made a Treaty), because the alternatives were so bad.

I believe this (because it was / is so major, and is, er, was, a formal Security Assurance) is the final straw. No U.S. ally can depend on us any more, they will develop their own nukes, that will ratchet up the global arms race, and with so many players, a nuke war of some form is inevitable now. If lucky, maybe it will only involve 100 warheads or so. I don’t know what that much radiation floating around the globe will do, but if one looks thoroughly at the aftermath of Chernobyl and the large area affected, to this day, it is pretty scary. (And I’m still pro-nuclear electric power!) A dust-up between, say, a nuclear armed Taiwan and China will affect us big time, even if we are not directly involved. Shoot, in most bodies of water in the US, the fish have more mercury from China in them than they do from the US.

We have posters on here saying it’s not worth our while to honor our FORMAL commitments. Bah! I suppose we will get what we selfish bastards-with-no-honor deserve...


59 posted on 03/19/2014 1:17:02 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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